Carsick

I want to repaint things but don't want to over do it and cover up any originality...I have all the accs. and brackets. I'm going to repainting the engine gold. Factory ac needs a belt and so does the alternator. I need help finding a set of period correct plugs and belts.

Thanks.

BangScreech4-4-2

What is an "emginay"?

Fun71

Also need to know what period you are referring to for correctness.

I see C heads that are correct for 67-69 BBO but you’re painting the engine gold (350 color)???

Carsick

A typo lol

Carsick

Yes C heads and a G block all numbers matching (400ci) 1969

I'm painting it gold to kinda replicate the original Olds Gold....but it's the vht gold which is a bit brighter imo...I think it's called "Universal gold".the brackets and pullies will be done in black (semi gloss?)

v8al

If your looking for originality the original color was a bronze.

See this thread for some discussion: Bill Hirsch Bronze versus Rustoleum aged copper

Carsick

I think I've decided on the other color. Not right but a good tribute that I like better than the Olds Gold.

BangScreech4-4-2

Bronze IS the right color.

Carsick

The brake booster has rust and so it needs to be redone....should I go black with the master cylinder sorta of a dark grey with the original cover.
thanks

Carsick

Should I track down a dtm high heat primer for the engine before I top coat it (gold)?

fleming442

Some people just don't listen. Fusick has a correctish bronze, too.

BackInTheGame

There are a number of threads addressing paints and their hues. If you are truly interested in "period correct" for the engine, it needs to be bronze. Here is a pic I took of the Parts Place's bronze, next to Supercar Unlimited's version. Of these two, I think the SU version is closest to stock. Others like the Bill Hirsch, which I've not seen in person.

Olds64

To refinish the brake booster you either have to strip the rust and treat it with Calyx dressing:

https://www.eastwood.com/calyx-manif...ting-3-oz.html

Or, you can paint it with brake fluid resistant paint.

https://por15.com/products/caliper-painting-kit

fleming442

Wow. The Parts Place looks really reddish! I've never seen an original, but I do like the Fusick shade. It gets a lot of attention, as almost every Olds engine is 455 blue or 350 gold. I don't even mind explaining to folks how Oldsmobile denoted engine sizes by color. And, no, it's not 442 cubic inches.... LMAO

67OAI

I'm surprised no one has made mention of the valve covers being installed incorrectly! The notch showing forward on the passenger side in post #1 is for brake booster clearance! The other valve cover will either have no notch for clearance or a long narrow notch for clearance of the A/C box on the passenger side!

Loaded68W34

That was already covered in this thread:
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-442-a-170310/
Apparently, despite finding out the valve covers were installed incorrectly, no effort was made to install them in the correct orientation.

Carsick

Some people don't. I know what color 'Bronzish' it was painted at the factory. Im going to go with this gold instead. I'm still trying to track down the belts and correct sensors. Any help would be much appreciated!

Carsick

Will the covers line up with the bolt holes in the heads if I turn them over? Is there a picture you can post showing how I should have them?

Thanks

Carsick

Still waiting on confirmation of that and a picture of how they should be....please share one of you got it!

Carsick

I saw your post with pictures . So they just need to switch sides before paint? Thank you. Any other pictures of a 1969 400 showing the correct orientation of things?

fleming442

So, you're worried about making everything correct, but painting it the wrong color, anyway. Perfect! 👍

The notches go toward the firewall. It also corrects the goofy looking peak. Also, the breathers will sit with the tops level.

Carsick

I want it to look right and in my opinion the original bronze doesn't look as good as this. Just me. I want it to appear period correct not pure factory correct. I have the correct bronze paint but it's for the next guy.
So a dtm high temp primer first?
Thanks

Loaded68W34

Yes, the valve covers need to be switched side to side before paint. You are correct that you need to use a primer before painting the final color.

BangScreech4-4-2

Paint it black. Better heat dissipation.

joe_padavano

Fixed it for you. For some reason only Mods and Admins can edit thread titles. Go figure.

Vintage Chief

It's a configurable setting contained w/in the top-tier Administrator's panel settings.

Carsick

so I got a new cowl/hood seal. How do I attach it? Make new holes for these metal tabs or should I grind them smooth and glue it on?

Thanks



FYI those little metal tabs WILL break and they hold down the metal screen deal. I'm gonna just take the tabs out and glue it...

joe_padavano

The metal tabs are spring-loaded. Just pry then out. Make new holes.

Carsick

On this mc , should I hit it with a wire wheel then etch then paint?

Carsick

So I should bend them out kinda thing. Just gently pry them up with a flat head?

Thanks (again) Joe.

*Any idea if that red electrical connection by the heater box is stock?

joe_padavano

You don't bend them. Gently pry and they should pop right out of the hole in the cowl.
What electrical connection?
And for the M/C, I like the Eastwood M/C paint, which is resistant to brake fluid.

70W-32

Wire wheel, then spray with Eastwood Cast Blast. Looks like raw cast iron

joe_padavano

If you're going for a concourse resto, use the cast blast. If you want durability, use the M/C paint. The latter is too metallic to look correct, but it is much more resistant to brake fluid.

Vintage Chief

Are you referring to this?

GN1220

Use aluminum foil to wrap hoses and wire harnesses for paint. Much easier than tape to apply then remove when you are finished.

Sugar Bear

Learned about wrapping wires and tubing in aluminum foil instead of tape on this site, it works really well.

70W-32

Didnt realize they had this now, just always used the cast blast. I'll have to order a can

Carsick

Should I use a dtm high heat primer?
And yes, for the record(s)
​​​​​ I'll switch the Valve covers !!

Thank you all
Any part numbers on the belts?

Carsick

Thank you. Is that even a sorta correct master?

Carsick

Yup!