olds 213, has anyone installed a modern transmission on a 213?
#1
olds 213, has anyone installed a modern transmission on a 213?
Hello, hopefully someone here can help me out.
i own a 1936 Oldsmobile and would like to add a modern transmission like a t-5 transmission.
Has anyone here ever done a modification like this or could point me to the right direction?
Or does anyone have a bell housing hanging around? i'd like the measurements from the back where the trans bolts up.
Yhanks in advance
i own a 1936 Oldsmobile and would like to add a modern transmission like a t-5 transmission.
Has anyone here ever done a modification like this or could point me to the right direction?
Or does anyone have a bell housing hanging around? i'd like the measurements from the back where the trans bolts up.
Yhanks in advance
#2
I would give Rossracing a call, might be able to help or at least point you in the right direction.http://rossracingengines.com/c/11/ol...early-catalog/
Last edited by 1969w3155; April 24th, 2017 at 10:09 PM.
#3
Here's another supplier that provides adapters for the Olds 394.
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/early_olds.htm
The home page mentions that custom adapters can be made as well. Hopefully you can find something that works.
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/early_olds.htm
The home page mentions that custom adapters can be made as well. Hopefully you can find something that works.
#4
Have you looked into a Rover Transmission that should be a direct bolt up. That being said I am no expert on the 213 engine and I don't remember anyone ever using the first generation Old's transmission on a 213. Check with Joe P or Jensen Racing they both play with that engine and would know.... Tedd
#9
Here's another supplier that provides adapters for the Olds 394.
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/early_olds.htm
The home page mentions that custom adapters can be made as well. Hopefully you can find something that works.
http://www.transmissionadapters.com/early_olds.htm
The home page mentions that custom adapters can be made as well. Hopefully you can find something that works.
thanks
i had checked with them but they don't make anything for a 213
#11
Hello, hopefully someone here can help me out.
i own a 1936 Oldsmobile and would like to add a modern transmission like a t-5 transmission.
Has anyone here ever done a modification like this or could point me to the right direction?
Or does anyone have a bell housing hanging around? i'd like the measurements from the back where the trans bolts up.
Yhanks in advance
i own a 1936 Oldsmobile and would like to add a modern transmission like a t-5 transmission.
Has anyone here ever done a modification like this or could point me to the right direction?
Or does anyone have a bell housing hanging around? i'd like the measurements from the back where the trans bolts up.
Yhanks in advance
For one thing . the old "torquey" flat head six just doesn't need five speeds .
The swap would be a total nightmare . As no one makes (or has ever made) an adapter for this .
My advice would be to stick with the original trans . Parts for it can be had . Especially through the internet . Use Google .
#12
These folks might have the parts for your original transmission:
http://www.fatsco.net/
I bought a rebuild kit from them when I rebuilt my Slim Jim Rotohydramatic in my 64 98. They have good service and a lot of hard to find parts you won't get from B&M or TCI.
http://www.fatsco.net/
I bought a rebuild kit from them when I rebuilt my Slim Jim Rotohydramatic in my 64 98. They have good service and a lot of hard to find parts you won't get from B&M or TCI.
#13
This swap would be WAY more trouble than it is worth.
For one thing . the old "torquey" flat head six just doesn't need five speeds .
The swap would be a total nightmare . As no one makes (or has ever made) an adapter for this .
My advice would be to stick with the original trans . Parts for it can be had . Especially through the internet . Use Google .
For one thing . the old "torquey" flat head six just doesn't need five speeds .
The swap would be a total nightmare . As no one makes (or has ever made) an adapter for this .
My advice would be to stick with the original trans . Parts for it can be had . Especially through the internet . Use Google .
#14
If what you want is better "highway" gears then it is the rear end that you need to change , not the transmission .
In 1936 most roads were still dirt or gravel . and speeds seldom exceeded 50 MPH on those . The best highways were the two lane concrete US highways where 65 MPH was "just flying ".
Car makers geared their cars accordingly . According to my research , the 36 Olds had a 4.56 rear gear .
By the 1950's the roads had much improved , and the speeds were higher.
So the gearing for stick shift cars was something like 3.70 or 3.90 . Automatic cars ran even taller at 3.23 or 3.08 .
The 1936 Olds had a rear end that was only used in 1935-36 . The ring gear was rivited to the diff case. There was a very limited selection of gear ratios , and all of them were in the "granny gear "range .
In 1937 Olds (and Pontiac ) went to a newer design axle that they stayed with as late as 1956 .
It may be possible to swap a complete rear end from a 50's Olds (or Pontiac) into your car. Try to find one that is close to the same width .3.55 to 3.70 is probably the best ratio .
You will have to find a welder by the name of McGuyver , to move the spring perches and build a new driveshaft . But it should all be do-able .
I did a similar thing with a 1937 Pontiac coupe (4.37 rear). I used a rear end center chunk out of a 54 Hydra-Matic (3.23 rear). Made for much easier cruising .
In 1936 most roads were still dirt or gravel . and speeds seldom exceeded 50 MPH on those . The best highways were the two lane concrete US highways where 65 MPH was "just flying ".
Car makers geared their cars accordingly . According to my research , the 36 Olds had a 4.56 rear gear .
By the 1950's the roads had much improved , and the speeds were higher.
So the gearing for stick shift cars was something like 3.70 or 3.90 . Automatic cars ran even taller at 3.23 or 3.08 .
The 1936 Olds had a rear end that was only used in 1935-36 . The ring gear was rivited to the diff case. There was a very limited selection of gear ratios , and all of them were in the "granny gear "range .
In 1937 Olds (and Pontiac ) went to a newer design axle that they stayed with as late as 1956 .
It may be possible to swap a complete rear end from a 50's Olds (or Pontiac) into your car. Try to find one that is close to the same width .3.55 to 3.70 is probably the best ratio .
You will have to find a welder by the name of McGuyver , to move the spring perches and build a new driveshaft . But it should all be do-able .
I did a similar thing with a 1937 Pontiac coupe (4.37 rear). I used a rear end center chunk out of a 54 Hydra-Matic (3.23 rear). Made for much easier cruising .
Last edited by Charlie Jones; April 30th, 2017 at 12:37 AM.
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