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Old Dec 22, 2022 | 07:41 AM
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Old Hooker header Application #2371

Sold these nos headers over the weekend. I bought them for a 67 so many years ago, 2inch tubes adjustable. It appears the fender wells would need cutting as one tube on each side is separate. Anyone ever have these and what did you have them on? just curious, guy wanted them for a 68 and up 442. Funny he called Hooker Tech, they had no idea.


Old Dec 22, 2022 | 10:35 AM
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Hooker headers

Oh wow! Wish I would have seen those. Missed a good set of headers.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 02:24 PM
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Oh wow! Wish I would have seen those. Missed a good set of headers.
Sold local, NJ, not on Classic Oldsmobile...
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 03:07 PM
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They wouldn't be small block, 64-67, would they? They look really short from the collector to flange. ARH is the only one currently offering them.
The G body Super Comps wrap a tube around the frame.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 03:09 PM
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Check out the original race 66 W30 pics and you'll see these headers.
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 03:12 PM
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They wouldn't be small block, 64-67, would they? They look really short from the collector to flange. ARH is the only one currently offering them.
The G body Super Comps wrap a tube around the frame.
Doubt they are small block, I believe when these were made they were designed for 65 thru 67 442. That was marked on the box and later written in black marker 68 up... These were probably discontinued in the late 1960's early 70's if I had to guess...
Old Dec 22, 2022 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmaniac
Sold these nos headers over the weekend. I bought them for a 67 so many years ago, 2inch tubes adjustable. It appears the fender wells would need cutting as one tube on each side is separate. Anyone ever have these and what did you have them on? just curious, guy wanted them for a 68 and up 442. Funny he called Hooker Tech, they had no idea.


These look like true "race car" headers because there is no flange on the collector to bolt up to an exhaust system. Smother's Bros Racing team as well as others used them, since Hooker was an NHRA sponsor. The slip joints on a couple of pipes allow them to be installed. They are very visible when installed.
These look very similar to JR's Competition headers. That company is no longer in business. I got mine from Berejik Olds and ran them on the '68 H/O. I have them on my '70 W'30 now.
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 02:43 AM
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The flange theory doesn't make sense. They're bent that way to make the primary tubes equal length.
I'd love to see pics of the JRs.
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 05:51 AM
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I think 1 tube looped around the frame
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by fleming442
The flange theory doesn't make sense. They're bent that way to make the primary tubes equal length.
I'd love to see pics of the JRs.
Ralph is talking about the lack of a flange at the collector outlet where you would normally bolt up the rest of the exhaust system. Yes, they are race car headers. Yes they are tuned to a specific primary tube length. Yes some of the pipes run around the outside of the frame rails to ensure they are equal length.
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 07:55 AM
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I have a set of the earlier Hooker (fit '64 thru '72 "A" body big block) that do not go out around the frame on each side; they pass one tube from each side under the leading edge of the oil pan making a conventional dropped pan a no fit! I shall have to dig them out and post pictures along with the pan and oil pump pick up which I dropped and modified to work. Yes, they shall be available for sale.
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Ralph is talking about the lack of a flange at the collector outlet where you would normally bolt up the rest of the exhaust system. Yes, they are race car headers. Yes they are tuned to a specific primary tube length. Yes some of the pipes run around the outside of the frame rails to ensure they are equal length.
A flange doesn't make it a "street" header. In fact, any full length header requires custom exhaust, flange or not. Only shorty or mid will or can bolt up to downpipes. I cut the 3 bolt flanges off my Hookers, so I can use a slip fit and band clamp.
The equal length tubes make them more "race" than the absence of 3 bolt flanges, if that's the route you want to take. Make sure you have a minimum 3/4 race cam to take full advantage. LOL
I'm more curious about how the front tubes route. They look to go under the control arms, judging from the hole in the design.
Old Dec 23, 2022 | 09:47 AM
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Yes, the two front tubes each side pass under the lower control arms.
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 10:08 AM
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These do not run outside the frame rails. The two forward pipes on each side run in front, and then back under the engine cradle frame cross member. These look like the set I sold to someone on ROP about 15 years ago,, could be them?

the 67 Brainbeau Olds runs this style of header. I have pics from the 100th anniversary in Michigan of the car under the front showing the pipes..they were white on the car at that time so easy to see. There is also a pic online somewhere of the car doing a big wheelie where you can clearly see how the pipes snake under the engine cross member.

I think Doug’s headers also made a similar style
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 10:12 AM
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So, they're 180⁰/"bundle of snakes" that are assembled wrong? I need them.
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 10:25 AM
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No! These are not the 180 degree headers; to my knowledge, Hooker never produced the 180 degree version.
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 12:24 PM
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They don’t go under the control arms. Here’s a 66 with them


Old Dec 24, 2022 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
These look like the set I sold to someone on ROP about 15 years ago,, could be them?
I got these at Englishtown swap 25 years ago.. Old speed shop inventory...
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CANADIANOLDS
They don’t go under the control arms. Here’s a 66 with them

crazy
Old Dec 24, 2022 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmaniac
I got these at Englishtown swap 25 years ago.. Old speed shop inventory...
Good find
Old Dec 25, 2022 | 12:08 AM
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Two pics, maybe help to show them more clearly installed. This happens to be on Berejik's second car/ 1968 NHRA World Finals in Witchita, KS.



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Old Dec 25, 2022 | 09:19 AM
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Not 180 headers.

Old Dec 25, 2022 | 09:22 AM
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Yeah, I get it. Equal length would be cool, but not hanging under the crossmember cool.
Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:45 AM
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The 180's




Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:53 AM
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Those are crazy. There isn't a factory style pan working with those.
Old Dec 25, 2022 | 10:59 AM
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I was just out in the shop pondering revisiting my 180 project. Then, I realized I have too much other stuff to do this year.
Old Jan 4, 2023 | 12:01 PM
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A couple pics of my early Hookers in "mock up" on the engine stand. These look the same as the ones Oldsmaniac posted in the opening of this thread; they do not go outside of the frame and do not require any cutting of the fender well. They do pass two pipes under the leading edge of the oil pan sump making a dropped sump pan a challenge as I have tried to show.


Old Jan 4, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 67OAI
A couple pics of my early Hookers in "mock up" on the engine stand. These look the same as the ones Oldsmaniac posted in the opening of this thread; they do not go outside of the frame and do not require any cutting of the fender well. They do pass two pipes under the leading edge of the oil pan sump making a dropped sump pan a challenge as I have tried to show.
The same I agree.
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