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Old Jul 10, 2020 | 03:04 PM
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NAOC Meet in Lansing Cancelled

Just saw this on FB.

"A sudden surge of Covid-19 cases and new restrictions put in place by the governor has made it impossible for us to have this show. Our primary concern is to insure the health and well being of those attending. We wish you all a safe and healthy summer and next year we will get together with our Oldsmobiles in Idaho."



Old Jul 10, 2020 | 05:07 PM
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I received a call from Judy today about the news I waited till about weeks before the deadline to register. Woodward is dead and the 28th street cruise in Grand Rapids was killed off also! Turing out to be a year without a car show!

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Old Jul 10, 2020 | 08:31 PM
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Mecum is running their 2020 Indianapolis auction live and in-person starting today through the 18th, just like the old days. All the Mecum employees are wearing face shields and such, but at least it's a real, live auction with people attending in person instead of everything being done "virtually" as all the auction houses have been doing recently. It may not be a car show, but it's something.
Old Jul 10, 2020 | 08:33 PM
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The governor clearly does not care about public health, only her pollitikal agenda.
Old Jul 11, 2020 | 09:24 AM
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The governor clearly does not care about public health, only her pollitikal agenda.
Haven't you read the forum rules ? No " pollitikal " discussion allowed !
Old Jul 11, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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Haven't you read the forum rules ? No " pollitikal " discussion allowed !
Hey it's the first post he did that wasn't selling something, give the man a chance!
Old Jul 11, 2020 | 11:23 AM
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but of course ,the only show we had still happening until mid September [Oldsmobiles and orphans at the Gilmore] and just after I got my car ready to go
Old Jul 12, 2020 | 05:33 AM
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She would be ok with Burning, Looting and Murdering our Cars! So why don’t we just call it a protest?
Old Jul 12, 2020 | 09:34 PM
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Chris, The Olds & orphans car show is no longer on the Gilmore's events page. I called and left a voicemail to try and get info on it, but have not heard back.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 06:45 AM
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Dammit !, that's not good , it makes no sense to me to cancel outdoor events, what a crock. there are no other shows I know of . the Pure Stock Drags better not be cancelled.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 07:52 AM
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I checked Gilmore's Facebook page, Oldsmobiles & Orphans is cancelled. I don't believe they have cancelled the Muscle Car Gathering on Sept 13.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 09:52 AM
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They do have other shows scheduled for the rest of the summer, that one just disappeared after they re-scheduled it.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MI68442W30
but of course ,the only show we had still happening until mid September [Oldsmobiles and orphans at the Gilmore] and just after I got my car ready to go
The group that runs the Olds show for the Gilmore museum bailed is my understanding. The muscle car show the day after is still on the schedule. They had a live band and show over the weekend, per their Facebook page.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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It's not all gloom and doom.

The Goodguys Salt Lake Nationals in Utah is going forward this weekend, with appropriate guidelines of course. But at least it's happening. I've been watching on TV the Mecum Indianapolis auction, which is going on all this week. They're all wearing masks and face-shields, but it's still good to see it actually happening.

https://www.good-guys.com/sln?utm_so...N-Final-Notice


Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:10 PM
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Really bummed about the Nationals cancellation. It's only a 3-hour drive.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:12 PM
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The rescheduled nationals are in the same city next year, so it will still be a three-hour drive!
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:19 PM
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Yes, it will ... if the re-scheduled Nationals are in Lansing next year. Joe's quote from FB:

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Just saw this on FB.
"A sudden surge of Covid-19 cases and new restrictions put in place by the governor has made it impossible for us to have this show. Our primary concern is to insure the health and well being of those attending. We wish you all a safe and healthy summer and next year we will get together with our Oldsmobiles in Idaho."
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:29 PM
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Yes, it will ... if the re-scheduled Nationals are in Lansing next year. Joe's quote from FB:
My bad. We're talking about two different shows here. When people say "Nationals," and forgetting the topic of this thread, I assume they mean the OCA Nationals, which were scheduled for Nashville this year and will be held there next year.

The "nationals" that Joe P was talking about are the NAOC (National Antique Oldsmobile Club) Nationals which were to be held in Lansing, and, yes, will be in Idaho next year. The NAOC is a much smaller club. I went to one of their nationals back in the '90s. It's a nice show, but it's nothing in comparison to the OCA's shows. But I would go if it were near enough.
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:40 PM
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The NAOC has an interesting history. It was originally formed as a backlash against the, in the founders' opinion, near complete domination of the OCA shows by the Cutlasses and 442s of the late '60s and early '70s. The original charter of the NOAC limited membership to Oldsmobiles of 1960 model year and earlier, thus avoiding the F-85s and Cutlasses that appeared beginning in 1961.

But this business model could only last so long, as the NAOC found out, because their members were getting older, and no new blood was coming into the club. So they started inching the model years upward. They first moved from 1960 to 1964, thus letting the elephant's nose into the tent because 1964 encompassed the first four years of the Cutlass models. These weren't the heyday years that would come a little later, but, as I said, a precedent had been set. I was a member of the club for a few years back in the '90s, when the 1964 limit was in place, because I owned at the time a '64 Jetstar 88, which I took to one of their shows. There were a few '64 full-size models there, and it was a little weird to have one of the latest model year cars in attendance.

Eventually the 1964 limit gave way to a later year, 1976 I believe, which meant that the NAOC had completely thrown in the towel as they were now willing to recognize ALL of the Cutlass model years they were originally founded to avoid, so their entire reason for being came into question. But they have continued to press on, and they have continued to advance the latest model year they will recognize, which is now 1984. In effect, the NAOC has now become simply another national Oldsmobile club. It's nice that they exist, but they've long since given up on trying to fill that Cutlass-avoiding niche they were first founded on.

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Old Jul 13, 2020 | 03:54 PM
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Great historical context. Thanks for sharing!
Old Jul 13, 2020 | 09:13 PM
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I was at the N.A.O.C nats. the last time that they were in Lansing (2010), and was planning on going again this year. They had a very good cross section of cars, with no domination of one model or year over another. It's the only time that I have seen the big Olds Limited at a show until I saw the Yellow Peril at the Gilmore a couple of years ago. I have been going to Homecoming since it's second year, about 25 years, and never saw a Limited there.
Old Jul 14, 2020 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by 1969w3155
They had a very good cross section of cars, with no domination of one model or year over another.
I think this is great, and I think it's a legacy of their early years. Despite the fact that they now recognize Oldsmobiles through 1984, most people still tend to see them as the "old Oldsmobile" club where people with Oldsmobiles from the '50s, '40s, and '30s tend to congregate.

I went back through my photos and found the ones I took at the one show I attended. It was in July 1993 at a resort just east of Morgantown, West Virginia. Here's a few of the photos. The maroon '64 on the left in the first one is the Jetstar 88 I brought. It's also on the far left in the last photo. I sold it in 1996.









Old Jul 14, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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The NAOC meet in Reading PA in 2017 had (gasp!) street rods! (at least this 36 had a 455 in it...)



Old Jul 14, 2020 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by jaunty75
I think this is great, and I think it's a legacy of their early years. Despite the fact that they now recognize Oldsmobiles through 1984, most people still tend to see them as the "old Oldsmobile" club where people with Oldsmobiles from the '50s, '40s, and '30s tend to congregate.

I went back through my photos and found the ones I took at the one show I attended. It was in July 1993 at a resort just east of Morgantown, West Virginia. Here's a few of the photos. The maroon '64 on the left in the first one is the Jetstar 88 I brought. It's also on the far left in the last photo. I sold it in 1996.
Great images ... your '64 was "only" 29 years young then. This show looks like the age of the heavy-weight class of Oldsmobile - 2 tons and up.
Old Jul 14, 2020 | 08:37 PM
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Nice pics. I like the Art Deco styling of the '41. '42 is a rare one.
Old Jul 15, 2020 | 01:10 PM
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It's not all gloom and doom.

The Goodguys Salt Lake Nationals in Utah is going forward this weekend, with appropriate guidelines of course. But at least it's happening. I've been watching on TV the Mecum Indianapolis auction, which is going on all this week. They're all wearing masks and face-shields, but it's still good to see it actually happening.

https://www.good-guys.com/sln?utm_so...N-Final-Notice


Not to quote myself, but why not.

My wife and I made the last-minute decision to attend this show. I can't wait. It will be so nice to see actual old cars, in person, even if it is while wearing a mask and keeping 6 feet, zero inches from everyone else. We're flying into Salt Lake City on Friday afternoon and flying back home Sunday afternoon. We'll spend Saturday at the show. We have so much airfare credit from recently cancelled trips that the entire trip in terms of airfare, hotel, and rental car is costing us only about $250 in new money. Tickets to the show are only $17 each, and those have been bought. I'll take a lot of photos!
Old Jul 15, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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Enjoy the show! We'll be waiting for your pics to post here. Safe travels!
Old Jul 16, 2020 | 05:44 AM
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I went for the day to the NAOC meet in Elmira in 2013. I think I joined for one year only, mainly to stop by the show for the day and drive up to Watkins Glen. We drove all the cars on the track. I found out later than anyone can drive on the track for $25. I think they do it weekdays at noon and 5 pm.




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