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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 07:24 PM
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Lock Nut or lock washer

The hardware kit I got from AMK for the transmission cross member came with lock washers instead of lock nuts.
The assembly manual shows lock nuts.
Few questions.

1. Is there a big difference in the application of lock nuts vs lock washers with standard nuts.
2. Is the standard lock nut from the hardware store sufficient?
3. Am I overthinking it and either would work fine?

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Old Jan 15, 2022 | 07:30 PM
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Yes, you are over thinking it. A lock washer will work fine, or you can buy lock nuts locally if you prefer.
Old Jan 15, 2022 | 07:35 PM
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My feeling is that lock nuts don't take heat as well as lock washers, but both should work as well in your application... Tedd
Old Jan 15, 2022 | 08:28 PM
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Since it's not visible maybe 1/2 & 1/2, check periodically and see if there's a problem.
Old Jan 16, 2022 | 06:18 AM
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I don't see an issue with either locknut or washer.
Old Jan 16, 2022 | 06:53 AM
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I think it depends, is the lock nut the type that doesnt use plastic, those are probably the best. Does the lock washer sit up against a slotted or enlarged hole it may not be as effective. Are you and me overthinking this….probably!
Old Jan 17, 2022 | 05:38 AM
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A trans crossmember doesn't get hot enough to negate using a stopnut. That's what i would choose. More difference in quality of stopnuts than between them and a lock washer. My mother worked at "Elastic Stopnut", I believe, the inventor of the type., back in the 80's. They had a full time employee, who went all over the country, to defend the use and name. Almost every time there was a lawsuit against the company, he just produced the documents to show that the failed stopnut was not one of their own, but a generic low quality one. Sad, too, as some of the cases involved boat props coming loose, and flying off, and hurting/killing people. Never one of theirs, though.
Old Jan 17, 2022 | 07:58 AM
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I don't really use the term locknut, I'll typically say nyloc. A car manufacturer will typically use neither, they tend to weld nuts to the brackets and make them captive. There are actually a few hundred 2006 Camrys driving around that have a bracket with nuts welded on by me using a real cool thing colloquially called a nut welder during my training program where we worked on various lines for a while.

If I were you, I'd use lock washers, hex nuts, and red loctite for that application. Also matchmark the assembly and look at them occasionally.
Old Jan 17, 2022 | 08:08 AM
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I ended up using the all-steel lock nut.
Old Jan 17, 2022 | 09:15 AM
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I ended up using the all-steel lock nut.
Stover lock nuts are fine, the ones you have in the first post are gr8.. Problem is you have to crank on them from start to finish.
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