How many where built ?
#42
Well Diego, in this case it would certainly be rarer because it would be one of none!
If it is an original floor shift SC, it has to be an M20 wide ratio 4-speed. That was the only floor shift option in '72 (even with the W30), and it mandated the 4-bbl 350 or a 455. Standard was still the ol' three-on-the-tree.
If it is an original floor shift SC, it has to be an M20 wide ratio 4-speed. That was the only floor shift option in '72 (even with the W30), and it mandated the 4-bbl 350 or a 455. Standard was still the ol' three-on-the-tree.
#44
And I verified this info front to back. Meaning it was not available, and didn't show up in the production records.
1971 was the last year for the M14 Heavy Duty 3-speed floor shift manual (the only floor shift 3-speed ever available). And in '70 and and '71, it was a GM trans, not the Ford Toploader used from '65 - '69.
#45
Kurt, what are these production records you speak of?
FWIW, I looked at the specs I have and it indeed shows M20 as not being available with the 350-2. I also don't see a floor-shifted 3-speed option. However, factory literature is not cast in stone, so I'll wait and see what happens here. :-)
FWIW, I looked at the specs I have and it indeed shows M20 as not being available with the 350-2. I also don't see a floor-shifted 3-speed option. However, factory literature is not cast in stone, so I'll wait and see what happens here. :-)
#46
Kurt, what are these production records you speak of?
FWIW, I looked at the specs I have and it indeed shows M20 as not being available with the 350-2. I also don't see a floor-shifted 3-speed option. However, factory literature is not cast in stone, so I'll wait and see what happens here. :-)
FWIW, I looked at the specs I have and it indeed shows M20 as not being available with the 350-2. I also don't see a floor-shifted 3-speed option. However, factory literature is not cast in stone, so I'll wait and see what happens here. :-)
Anyway, there is no 3-speed manual there.
There is no doubt in my mind about this.
#49
Maybe someone went through this before, but that "we" wouldn't have included me!
And I verified this info front to back. Meaning it was not available, and didn't show up in the production records.
1971 was the last year for the M14 Heavy Duty 3-speed floor shift manual (the only floor shift 3-speed ever available). And in '70 and and '71, it was a GM trans, not the Ford Toploader used from '65 - '69.
And I verified this info front to back. Meaning it was not available, and didn't show up in the production records.
1971 was the last year for the M14 Heavy Duty 3-speed floor shift manual (the only floor shift 3-speed ever available). And in '70 and and '71, it was a GM trans, not the Ford Toploader used from '65 - '69.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ual-floor.html
again, i have no proof but i seen with my own eyes an original 72 3 sp floor shift car. with a Hurst shift lever, i do not know if the shifter was a Hurst but the lever was. i am not trying to be a problem but i know it is possible.
#50
Please accept my apologies and let me correct myself.
Yes, '71 *was* the last year for the M14 Heavy Duty 3-speed manual trans with the Hurst floor shifter.
However in '72 they continued to offer the floor shifter, but only with the same regular 3-speed manual trans as the column shifts got. So it was not given a "Mxx" RPO code as it was only a shifter change, not a transmission change. I thus missed the W39 RPO code given to it. Missed it in the "front" and the "back". I didn't have the production figures then that I do now, and I can now add that there were approx 475 3-speed floor shifters that made it into Cutlass S series cars, and that would include ones also 442 optioned.
And Diego, following your line of thinking, that is about 25% of the number of 4-speeds in the same series.
I promise not to forget *that* again!!
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