I hope I am in the correct section to ask this ??
I may possibly be selling my post 66 442, calif built car, original body panels, correct tri power air cleaner, OAI. 4:10 4 speed of course, body off restored every nut & bolt. Battery mounted in trunk etc etc. 54k, New n.o.s glass & chrome. radio & heater & power steering delete car. powder coated frame, Engine was rebuilt of course, hi temp powder coated exh manifolds. 3 time National show winner in the past. Only driven 300 miles since restored. Car is perfect, everything works. Yes this is a true 442 car. Unfortunately I do not have the P O P. which I know hurts the value some, All numbers do match 100 %, JUst looking for a honest idea what this is worth in today's market. THANKS IN ADVANCE !!

 

Tom,
Looks like I need to make a trip out to see it and meet you before it leaves the area.
As far as worth? Have you had it professionally appraised for insurance purposes?
Just the fact that it's restored to a very high level, I'd look at similar nut n bolt 442s restored beyond condition #1 and see what they are exchanging hands for.
Then add in the cost of the track pack specific items, total it up, and see where it lands you.
If you have paperwork on the track pack, that will help.

The carbs, shroud, and intake alone will add significant dineros regardless of lineage.

Of course, you know what the minimum is that you need to break even.
I'd think since you purchased it, it has gained a little more value just because everything has doubled in our lovely economy...except my wage.

Put it up for auction with a proper reserve and see who bites. You will either be surprised or annoyed.
I'll bet it would bring top dollar at one of the major alcohol fed **** houses?

 

YOUR FUNNY ! Yes I am thinking of a auction,I know there are alot of old's gurus on this site thought I would take shot on the worth..I have not had this appraised. Come on over when ever you can... I may have a line on a 69 z/28 crossram JL8 Car. ME being a camaro nut. But I still luv the olds however !!!!

 

Figure out your number and list the car for sale in your sig. Maybe the right guy will approach, ask you for the price, like the price and the car, and buy person to person.

 

The 64-67 cars just aren't as strong as the 68-71 cars in my experience. I have two 70's and 66, and the 66 just doesn't get as much love at shows and such unless its a die hard old guy that understands. Send me some pics and what not please. I might be interested. jweaver@leeinc.com

 

You are not making me feel very happy about the worth of the 64 to 67 LOL
LOOK BACK IN SEPT 16 2023 pictures of 66 442 as promised. There are many pictures of it

 

I think I remember that car being for sale by a dealer somewhere years ago?
Nice. How is the manual steering on that?

 

‘unfortunately I believe you are 100% correct..I as well have a 70 and two 66’s. One being a track pack car.

 

Manual steering is no problem what so ever. turns very easy. The only time you notice this is if the car is stationary and then turning. I am used to this from my camaro's they are all manual..

 

I wonder if there is any value difference between a "track pack" car from a dealer, one that was modified by the owner back then, and one modified by the owner in modern times.

 

Good Luck with the sale. Maybe someone that is priced out of a #1 68-72 442 will do like I did and move +/- a few years and see your 66 .
If I was looking for a '66 a body it have a 389 in it. But good luck. I'm sure after you sell it you'll wish you didn't.

 

AS of now I am sitting on the fence. I really like the car, but camaro's are in my blood...

 

For sure one of the original 54 built w31's is worth more then mine,, no question...I have heard there are only 24 left.

 

‘Excellent question..problem is very little sales data on track pack cars in general as well as true 66w30 cars. My gut says says if someone had a original, and as we have discussed survivor track pack that was dealer modified with the documents and an invoice or things of that nature stating that it was dealer modified then I would think, I would hope that would bring a lot more money, but I don’t know anymore.

 

I think with clones going for almost as much as factory cars. it might not matter as much anymore unless it is an original never restored car. As most understand that restored cars have as much factory installed parts as the clone does at this point. So an original non restored car might bring in more. Seems it doesn't matters what matters is if 2 or more paddle holders that have had more than a few wobblly pop's are in the same room and have an ego problem and have to win. Ideally as a seller this is what you want.

 

Wobbily Pops!! 😂🤣

 

That's odd because I would think a 67 with the TH400 switch pitch and E block would beat the G block normal 400 68 and 69 442.

Manual steering is only a pain on cars set up for power. Big steering wheels on things like trucks and vans with never any power steering is a different animal than a usually power steering car like a Cutlass. My experience with that matches the OP, it's only a pain if not moving. One typically backs out and overturns, then turns back the other way a bit, before going forward to deal with that. I deal with that on a Corvette of similar vintage.

It's changing. Numbers matching matters less now. I think a lot matters with the execution of a later modification. My 67 has a uggah duggah w-30 cam, and it's got a 3.08 rear. Bad call by previous owner. So, putting a track pack on that car is fine for the OAI, but not for the cam. Need a different choice. So, if it's a mismatch on some car, it would be of lesser value than a dealer installed, I would think.

 

1964-67 was the beginning of the "Muscle car" era. No one realized what a huge market it would become. 442's were featured in advertising, but 88's and 98's were the bread and butter.
1968 began the massive marketing of performance. Thats when the whole "Dr. Oldsmobile" campaign began and it appeared everywhere and is still present today. The "people" entering the "Classic" car market today lean toward the 1968-72 models because they see more of them and they remember seeing them when they were young. These people are the least knowledgeable group.
"Matching numbers" is something they can say to impress their friends. They have no clue what it means or how verify. Words like "Classic, Tribute, Heritage, etc. are sales tactics used for this group.

Koda, in reference to the "E" block. The E blocks would typically embarrass the "G block" owners. The guy in Berejik's Performance Center told me me "the G blocks "could" run as fast as the E blocks, but it took a lot of work. You didn't see many G blocks at the drag strip or cruising around town because they were slow. I am glad I never had one. Instead, I had a '68 Hurst/Olds W-45 (non A/C, 308 degree cam, 3.91 rear gears) bought before it was loaded on a car transport for delivery to the my dealer.