Fake 69 442 at Mecums.
February 8th, 2011, 05:27 PM
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Fake 69 442 at Mecums.
Yeap as I strolled through the Cars for sale at the Kissimee Mecums Auto Auctions a few weeks ago I noticed a 1969 442 from a distance. When I got up on it it had a 70 442 Hood, spoiler on the Rear and a 455 Buick Motor in it. I watched it sell for $28,000. They never said a word about the Motor being a Buick. There were tons of nice cars there but you can always count on some of this junk getting through. I have no idea if this was on television yet. They repeat the auctions pretty heavy on My Hd channel though. That poor guy is going to have some problems putting Olds 455 parts on a Buick 455. 
February 8th, 2011, 05:38 PM
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Depends on whether it was advertised as a numbers matching 442 or not.
If it's not, it's up to the buyer to investigate the powerplant.
If it was a nicely done car with a beautiful engine bay, I wouldn't care personally.
Buick 455's are pretty desirable and torquey as well.
Many say they're better 455's then the Olds......and faster
If it's not, it's up to the buyer to investigate the powerplant.
If it was a nicely done car with a beautiful engine bay, I wouldn't care personally.
Buick 455's are pretty desirable and torquey as well.
Many say they're better 455's then the Olds......and faster
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February 8th, 2011, 08:25 PM
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http://www.mecum.com/auctions/lot_de...=FL0111-102257
I like Buicks almost as much as Oldsmobiles, but a Buick (or Chevy) engine in a 442 is sacrilege. IMO Buicks should have Buick engines, Olds should have Olds, Chevy...etc. (unless GM built it that way - i.e. Trans Ams with SB Chevy or 403 Olds). Of course I'll get 'flamed' for my "Factory correct or nothing" view like I always do.
I like Buicks almost as much as Oldsmobiles, but a Buick (or Chevy) engine in a 442 is sacrilege. IMO Buicks should have Buick engines, Olds should have Olds, Chevy...etc. (unless GM built it that way - i.e. Trans Ams with SB Chevy or 403 Olds). Of course I'll get 'flamed' for my "Factory correct or nothing" view like I always do.
February 8th, 2011, 08:57 PM
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February 9th, 2011, 05:47 AM
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February 9th, 2011, 04:27 PM
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The car was advertised and then sold as an all original 69 442. I sat there stunned as it sold with no word said about the Buick Power Plant, wrong Hood, and or Wing as well. It was a nice looking Car but what a crock.
February 9th, 2011, 05:38 PM
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The seller will afford every opportunity for the bidder to view all lots prior to sale. However the purchaser must understand that he/she is buying property entirely upon his own or his agent's examination and opinion prior to the auction. All lots are sold "AS IS, WHERE IS." Any guarantees written or implied as to the authenticity, originality, or condition of any lot are not the guarantee of the Auction Company, and should be determined by the purchaser's own inspection and discretion prior to the auction. The information provided by the seller is deemed reliable, but not guaranteed.
Caveat Emptor, indeed.
February 9th, 2011, 07:45 PM
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Mecum and Barret Jackson don't give a rats *** about Authenticity.
They leave that up to you to figure out. Just like Auto Auctions leave it up
to you to figure out if the car is actually going to run when you buy it.
That's why I think those auctions are ruining the hobby personally. They're
taking cars that we can all afford to buy and build and now prices for OEM
and OER parts have skyrocketed so high in the past 6 years it's unreal. It's
created an avenue for scammers galore to do VIN swaps and get busted by
the Fed's too. Alot of people have been taken advantage of by this kind of thing.
2 big time shops now I've heard in the news were busted for making VIN
swapped Shelby GT500's.
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February 9th, 2011, 08:01 PM
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Depends on whether it was advertised as a numbers matching 442 or not.
If it's not, it's up to the buyer to investigate the powerplant.
If it was a nicely done car with a beautiful engine bay, I wouldn't care personally.
Buick 455's are pretty desirable and torquey as well.
Many say they're better 455's then the Olds......and faster
If it's not, it's up to the buyer to investigate the powerplant.
If it was a nicely done car with a beautiful engine bay, I wouldn't care personally.
Buick 455's are pretty desirable and torquey as well.
Many say they're better 455's then the Olds......and faster
February 9th, 2011, 08:36 PM
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We are not the same type of car enthusiasts.
I do like the torquey power curve of Olds engines.
But I don't like the lack of aftermarket support of them.
I'm more into Olds because of the way the car looks, not their engines.
(bboooo....hisssss)
I'm just not overly biased to be loyal to a single brand.
I'm loyal to "Best bang for the Buck"
I think people who are loyal to a brand 100% is cool if that's what they want.
I do like the torquey power curve of Olds engines.
But I don't like the lack of aftermarket support of them.
I'm more into Olds because of the way the car looks, not their engines.
(bboooo....hisssss)
I'm just not overly biased to be loyal to a single brand.
I'm loyal to "Best bang for the Buck"
I think people who are loyal to a brand 100% is cool if that's what they want.
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