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Old May 27th, 2013, 06:15 AM
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Advice on selling a 67 Olds Cutlass 4-door

I've got a 1967 Olds Cutlass 4-door that I need to sell. I've had this car for about 20 years. It came with a 330ci and a Powerglide transmission, which I still have. It currently had a 455ci with a TH400 transmission. I don't have room for the car and am looking to sell it.

Can anyone tell me the best way to sell this car? I'd like it to go to a good home, but I have a feeling that this car will be stripped for parts. Also, I'm not sure exactly what this car is worth.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 06:36 AM
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Pic's, location, and possibly an idea of a starting price would help a lot. A description of the good and bad points.

It's a 4 door, not near as popular, however there are some with families that look for 4 doors.

Good luck with your sale.
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Thanks. I'll post some photos and some additional details soon.

When it comes to price, I'm not even sure where to start. Any clue on range? $2K-5K range?

Also, I'm not sure if I should try selling the original engine and trans with the car or sell them separate. The 455 that's in it is a new vintage than the car(mid 70's).
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If your 330 is a hi comp, you may try selling it separate. Not knowing the good and bad of your car, or seeing pictures, is like me asking you what my house is worth. A few more details are in order.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 07:32 AM
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Good points. I'll put together the photos and details. I'll have to check the numbers on the engine to find out which one it is.
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Does it have any major damage, rust, etc? How is the interior? Do post some pics so we can evaluate it. If you sell, you might want to give the buyer an option to what motor they want. They might want the original if they want to restore it. If they want it for just the 455 engine, you could swap the 330 back in and sell just the 455.
I do wish more people would restore four door cars, as they bring a welcome change at the car show scene.
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You did not indicate where you are. That helps and the condition of the car like rust. If you are from east of the rockies that can be a big concern. I think the 330 is a great motor and unless worn to the point of needing to be overhauled I would want both when purchasing it. Is it a hardtop or a post? What options does it have? Like: power steering, power brakes, front disc brakes, trunk opener, AC, tilt wheel, power seat, power antenna, and so on. All this makes some difference.
I would like to see pictures. You can email them to me and where it is. I might be interested. I have been considering doing a 4 door to tow my 442 with.

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I will put together some pics. The car is a hardtop, so no posts, which is pretty cool. A lot of people that see the car think it's a 2-door when the windows are down for a few minutes. The 330 was rebuilt 32 years ago and has been out of the car for about 10 years. It probably needs a refresh, but it was running when it was taken out. The original Powerglide transmission has never been rebuilt, but was strong and shifted well when it was in there with the 330. I am located in Wisconsin, but the car is originally from Massachusetts. The car had complete bodywork done about 25 years ago with a lacquer paint job in the original cream color. It has a black vinyl top on it that was also replaced new with the paint. The paint is a little worn with minor surface rust spots here and there(pics to follow). The interior is original gold color and needs some TLC. All of the exterior chrome was refinished when it was painted. The car was only driven in the summers after the bodywork was done. It has power brakes and power steering and has 4-wheel drum brakes. No AC, PW, PDL options. It has the 442 rally wheels on it, but I have the original steel wheels and hub caps that were on the car. The car was originally bought by a good fried of mine's grandmother. When she passed away back in 1980, she left it to him. We co-owned this car since she gave it to him. He gave it to me about 3 years ago and it has been sitting in my heated garage in Wisconsin since. I've driven it a few times, but have other vehicles that I drive more often.

I'll work on getting some decent photos and posting them in the next couple of days. I also have a bunch of various parts that can go with the car including a complete dash, underhood brackets, power steering pumps, pulleys, air cleaner and other parts.

It's funny that you mention towing. My friend had put on a tow hitch, so he could tow his canoe on a small trailer to local rivers.
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I wish I had the time and money to restore this car. It's sentimental, but I'm in the middle of a 1969 Camaro convertible restoration. I think it would make a good cruiser. The lack of the window posts makes the car for sure. The car has been kept in a garage it's whole life and deserves a better home than I can give it.
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Here are some photos I just took today. I can only post 5 at a time, so take a look at addition posts.
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Here's the last of them. The last pic with hubcaps was right after the car was painted about 20 or so years ago.
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Old May 27th, 2013, 12:34 PM
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That is a good looking car. But what really got my attention was the red inner fenderwells. Are they painted red, or plastic that's molded out of red plastic? The red plastic fender liners were W30 only.

The valve cover with OLDSMOBILE pressed into them were used in 1973. You can check the vin stamp to see if the block is from 1973. What letter heads are on the engine?

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Here are some additional photos. I've included the 455 engine block # pic, the 330 engine block # pic, and the firewall plate for the car.

The 455 ID is 396021Fa, which is a post 1972.
The 330 ID is 3944173.
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And the inner fenderwells are...


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Fender Wells

The inner fender wells are steel that got painted red by my co-owner.
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OK, now I can stop wondering about them

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Cowl Tag Decipher

So, I looked up the cowl tag and here is what I found:
1) 1967, 2nd week of March
2) Four-door Hardtop Holiday Sedan
3) V8
4) Built in Framingham, Mass
5) Exterior Color: Cameo Ivory
6) Gold Interior, Bench Seat
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Originally Posted by scorpioz
The original Powerglide transmission has never been rebuilt, but was strong and shifted well when it was in there with the 330.
FYI- Power glides are aluminum cased Chevrolet 2 speed transmissions. You have a Super Turbine 300 2 speed.
That's a really nice looking 4 door. I pulled a front driver's fender and trunk lid off the twin to that car in a Dallas wrecking yard about 15 years ago.
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Thanks for the info on the trannie. I'm been a GM guy forever, but primarily Chevy. I always thought it was a PowerGlide, since it was a 2 speed. The old trans always shifted well.
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That is a BEAUTIFUL car! I love 4 door hardtops (of course I'm biased). IMHO, they are the pinnacle of evolution for older vehicles (too bad they stopped making them after 76).

I think you could easily sell that for $3k-5k if not more. I bought my 71 98 (4 door hardtop) for $1800 and it was ROUGH.

You could always put an add out asking $5000 obo and see who bites.
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If it were coupe...I'd say $5k and I would certainly start there even as a 4dr. It needs an interior. I would also venture to guess front end work and body bushings. It's a tough call.

I think it looks better with the steel wheels.

Is the 330 a hi comp, the crank is what makes it special. The jetaway is not very desirable for a trans.
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I like it. Not being critical here, just trying to learn something. As you can see I have a 66 Cutlass, but I also own a 67 Buick Sport Wagon. Now the question.
The arm rests on the 67 4dr for sale here are the same as on my Buick wagon, ARE THESE CORRECT FOR A 67 CUTLASS 4DR??
The ones on my 66 2dr are different, and I know they are original. So which is correct?

Thanks for the help,
Mike

Oh yes, one more question, is the last picture of the guy standing with a 4 dr car the same car which is now offered for sale? I liked the old look best.

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Thanks for the feedback. Now I just need to find a buyer. It is a good looking car and I hate to have to sell it, but sadly I'm out of room and I don't have the money to invest into this car. The 69 Camaro project is for my wife and she's not in love with the Olds. She is much more interested in a 69 convertible RS/SS vs. the Olds 4-door. Go figure.
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The 69 Camaro project is for my wife and she's not in love with the Olds. She is much more interested in a 69 convertible RS/SS vs. the Olds 4-door. Go figure.
Man up and tell your wife that you are the husband and the ultimate authority in your household.

Yeah, that would never work with my wife. Try it at your own risk.
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Man Up

You're funny....Man up.

Actually, I'm cool with the fact that she's into old cars. Also, if you think I'm building the Camaro, just for her enjoyment...not. It's going to be a nice car and I can't wait to drive it. I'm putting my old 350 from my Monte in it with a Muncie 4-speed. It's about 425HP.

Wish I could afford to keep them all...

When I moved out to Wisconsin, I had to sell a 1967 Plymouth Sport Fury III that my dad gave me. It was a triple black 2-door hardtop with a 383 Big Block, 4-speed, and Posi. It was a cool car that needed love too, but moving half way across the country with 1 car and a bunch of stuff didn't allow for the second car.

I've had my 1970 Monte since I was 13 and I will likely get buried in that car when I die. I likely have a million dollars and a million hours into that one.
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Looks like a nice car, it smokes a little though. Hey good luck with your sale and the Camaro.
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Yeah, that Monte is pretty slick. Good luck with your Camaro build and we hope you sell your Cutlass for a decent price.
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Parts for Olds

Here are some more pics of parts and pieces I found for the Olds.
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Nice driver! So many wants, so little money...
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Sadly, that's why I can't keep it.
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