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Old March 7th, 2012, 01:18 PM
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69 or 70 442, 455?

Hi all.
I have had this engine for a few years.
I pulled it from a 70 442. correct W-Z's,
Had the coreect OG 400 behind it. Etc...
But it did have a 398662 D2 intake, 68-69
and C heads. I am tring to decipher the pad #.
It is 39M342368. On the back of the block it is
a F-1 unit. Beside the right side of the dist hole are
the number 4 and below that, a little right of that #
is a #43.
Confused yet? Yeah, me too.
Any help is appriciated guys, and thanks again, Adam.
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Hi all.
I have had this engine for a few years.
I pulled it from a 70 442. correct W-Z's,
Had the coreect OG 400 behind it. Etc...
But it did have a 398662 D2 intake, 68-69
and C heads. I am tring to decipher the pad #.
It is 39M342368. On the back of the block it is
a F-1 unit. Beside the right side of the dist hole are
the number 4 and below that, a little right of that #
is a #43.
Confused yet? Yeah, me too.
Any help is appriciated guys, and thanks again, Adam.
It looks like a 69 455 to me. What was the VIN of the 70 442? What's the VIN number on the tranny?
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Old March 7th, 2012, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
Hi all.
I have had this engine for a few years.
I pulled it from a 70 442. correct W-Z's,
Had the coreect OG 400 behind it. Etc...
But it did have a 398662 D2 intake, 68-69
and C heads. I am tring to decipher the pad #.
It is 39M342368. On the back of the block it is
a F-1 unit. Beside the right side of the dist hole are
the number 4 and below that, a little right of that #
is a #43.
Confused yet? Yeah, me too.
Any help is appriciated guys, and thanks again, Adam.
The motor is from a 69 of some kind. The # 4 is the mold # and the 43 is the date code. That appears to be a Feb. of 69 block. If it was from a 70 car,the vin # on the block would be 30MXXXXXX
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Old March 7th, 2012, 01:59 PM
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The 442 has been gone awhile. I had the vin #'s
around here some where, I remember that I ran them
to make sure it was a 344 car, and it was.
I don't know where to check on the tranny, but i still
have it and I can check. I also thought that the engine
was a 69 455, someone will hopefully chime in, Adam.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by tru-blue 442
The 442 has been gone awhile. I had the vin #'s
around here some where, I remember that I ran them
to make sure it was a 344 car, and it was.
I don't know where to check on the tranny, but i still
have it and I can check. I also thought that the engine
was a 69 455, someone will hopefully chime in, Adam.
I think the vin is stamped in the pan rail someplace. I could be wrong but that's what I'm remembering.
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Old March 7th, 2012, 02:07 PM
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Thanks 66!
I have met a fella out of Austin
who has aquired a 69 Hurst Olds
and was needing a date correct
block. This one should do it, yes?
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Old March 7th, 2012, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
I think the vin is stamped in the pan rail someplace. I could be wrong but that's what I'm remembering.

I think I remember they are on the pan gasket surface of the tranny.
After you scrape off the gasket, you can see it. Or, uh, well, I CAN"T remember...
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vin should be on the vertical just above the pan rail and to the rear of the shifter shaft on the driver's side.at least that's where mine is
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Yep, that would do it although the intake would not be correct. The 342368 following the 'M' should be just the basic production numbers that would match the last 6 numbers of the vin of the original car it came from. Although not an original 1969 H/O block, the 342368 does fall into the early portion of the series of vins from 1969 H/O's so the block was around at the same time but probably made it into a Delta 88 or somthing of that nature.

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Thanks 66!
I have met a fella out of Austin
who has aquired a 69 Hurst Olds
and was needing a date correct
block. This one should do it, yes?
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Old March 10th, 2012, 06:33 AM
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Thanks again for the info guys.
Now my curiosity is up. The engine I have built
for my 69 is a 68 F-2 block. Also 39MXXXX on the pad.
Again by the dist. hole, molding # 2, with a very large
# 204 under that. Does that mean anything?
Also, how can you find where they were forged?
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If you haven't found the vin on the transmission yet, here's the location.

P1010155.jpg
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The engine I have built for my 69 is a 68 F-2 block.
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"68" and "F-whatever" on the block's rear face are not significant nor do they indicate the year of [whatever].


Also 39MXXXX on the pad.
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3 = Olds car
_9 = 1969 Model Year
__M = Michigan assemble plant [Lansing, home of Olds]
___101123 = Vehicle's sequential serial number


Again by the dist. hole, molding # 2,
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Mold number, loosely correlated with calendar years since that type block began to be made.

with a very large # 204 under that. Does that mean anything?
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204 is the Julian Date of the casting.
204 is about 23July- so July of 1968 for an early production 1969 Model Year would be most likely.


Also, how can you find where they were forged?
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They what?
Blocks are cast, not forged.
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