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Old Aug 20, 2020 | 10:13 PM
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442 delivery gone bad

Paid top $ to get car shipped $1200 came
fast so fast the guy forgot to tell me he was arriving.
I noticed the olds pull up in front of house.
im like wtf is he driving it for?
first thing he says is he had to put $30 of gas in it which was BS because it had plenty of gas he just didn’t know how to start it up.
apparently it has alittle leak down issue.
he decided to pump it 20 times and flood it more. He decided it needed $30 worth of gas.
So that wasn’t even the big issue.
I go to open the hood and noticed he hit the car
and broke the grille surround.
He immediately denied it but gave up $200 so that to me admitts guilt.
I’m concerned about the chunk out of the hood.
see photo

Bruised front of hood Not terrible but it wasn’t there before

Came off in my hand when I opened hood

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 02:42 AM
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Wow! starting off badly. Could always be worse though
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 03:44 AM
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After just spending time repairing a hood on the nose, that's not a big deal. The hood looks like it has had some work done before, and it should be taken down a few layers and reshaped anyway. Still not a way to treat a car like this :/ Sorry for the bad start.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 04:03 AM
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Car haulers have their heads up their azzes. Sorry to see this. My brother's 72 442 delivered on a multi car hauler. On top over his car was a rusted turd. The 442 was covered in rusty crumbs, lots of them and the car above had its over the axle exhaust pipe swinging over top... luckily it didn't fall....
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 04:49 AM
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Back in 2013 my Nova was delivered, by the seller, from St. Louis to Dallas...open 5th wheel trailer. His truck blew diesel all over the car. We had a BIG discussion about that. After trailering it to the local DIY carwash he laid out $ 200.00 for a detailer.

He was in a bit of a spot. He needed to pick up a car in East Texas. The deal was, I paid $ 1,000.00 up front for delivery. He kept it, if it didn't accept the car on final inspection. If I bought the car, he would credit the $ 1,000.00 delivery charge. So, it all worked out.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 05:03 AM
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I used Bo Bo transportation out of Henderson Ky, and he took very good care of the cutlass! Sorry to hear you had a bad experience!
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 07:17 AM
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NO WAY!

Was this jabroni even supposed to drive your Olds? I would figure that you would have to go to a shipping depot to pickup your car once it arrived (I've never shipped a car before).
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Oldsmaniac
Car haulers have their heads up their azzes. Sorry to see this. My brother's 72 442 delivered on a multi car hauler. On top over his car was a rusted turd. The 442 was covered in rusty crumbs, lots of them and the car above had its over the axle exhaust pipe swinging over top... luckily it didn't fall....
Man sounds like I got off lucky
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:17 AM
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Did you verify mileage before and after the trip?
If there is a discrepancy I'd cut open the oil filter to check for metal as well as dropping the oil...all while recording it and a shot of the odometer. If he beat on it and caused internal damage this could save your azz. Listen to the engine closely.

Check the rear fender wells and tire treads for burn out evidence. Photograph!

A good carrier will photograph the car and miles prior and post shipping to avoid liability. I had a minor incident and because of the care, the driver took their claim company took great care of the minor blem incurred. In fact, I don't think I took their compensation offer as it rubbed out fine. (1999 or 2000).
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:34 AM
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I've shipped numerous Oldsmobiles and Corvettes over the past 25 years to get the special cars I want in the least rusty condition. I've never had an outright bad experience with damage but I'd be really pissed. That $200 will cover getting a new stone shield but none of the work, paint, etc. required.

If the damage and shenanigans were documented on the shipping forms before you signed for receipt, you should be able to file a claim and work with his insurance. Is he a one-man operation or a driver for an actual carrier? Did you verify with the seller that the stone shield and hood were all good before the car was loaded up?

Good luck and hope you have a good outcome.

Terry

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Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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When my Cutlass got delivered to Phoenix the master cylinder reservoir was very low. Apparently the car was at a steep angle on the truck and brake fluid leaked out during the journey. And my car was on the top level, so at least one car below got drizzled with brake fluid.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
Did you verify mileage before and after the trip?
If there is a discrepancy I'd cut open the oil filter to check for metal as well as dropping the oil...all while recording it and a shot of the odometer. If he beat on it and caused internal damage this could save your azz. Listen to the engine closely.

Check the rear fender wells and tire treads for burn out evidence. Photograph!

A good carrier will photograph the car and miles prior and post shipping to avoid liability. I had a minor incident and because of the care, the driver took their claim company took great care of the minor blem incurred. In fact, I don't think I took their compensation offer as it rubbed out fine. (1999 or 2000).
Is that with that rubber is all over the quarter panel I was wondering where that came from
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by vette442
I've shipped numerous Oldsmobiles and Corvettes over the past 25 years to get the special cars I want in the least rusty condition. I've never had an outright bad experience with damage but I'd be really pissed. That $200 will cover getting a new stone shield but none of the work, paint, etc. required.

If the damage and shenanigans were documented on the shipping forms before you signed for receipt, you should be able to file a claim and work with his insurance. Is he a one-man operation or a driver for an actual carrier? Did you verify with the seller that the stone shield and hood were all good before the car was loaded up?

Good luck and hope you have a good outcome.

Terry
yes I did see pictures of the car before I bought it and there was no damage to the hood it’s not as bad as it looks it’s just a little primer taken off but it was not like that on pick up.
he apparently did some damage and yes I could buy the stone shield for about $125 so I have $75 left over to address the little primer spot it needs bodywork and paint anyway.
and he drove the car 3 houses over idling
as I heard him pull up.
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 05:59 PM
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I hope you let Annemarie know not to use that guy anymore and to start an insurance claim.

Scott
Old Aug 21, 2020 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ThaDeuce
I hope you let Annemarie know not to use that guy anymore and to start an insurance claim.

Scott
i told her that and I noticed some of the damage after the fact because the guy was in a hurry it’s all good he was a jerk.
He messed up the front of the hood a little bit and the radiator support piece bent up a little.
I should be good with a new stone shield and a little elbow grease this is gonna be a driver.
thanks!
Old Aug 23, 2020 | 11:34 AM
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$200 doesnt even come close to being enough to repair that hood by a professional...

but, all in all, be grateful its home, move on and let it go or it will eat on you, i have had some really bad experiences that cost a lot of money and time in court.

I finally let it go, and just got into the car...i'm better now..but it sure stings every time i think about it
Old Aug 23, 2020 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by marxjunk
$200 doesnt even come close to being enough to repair that hood by a professional...

but, all in all, be grateful its home, move on and let it go or it will eat on you, i have had some really bad experiences that cost a lot of money and time in court.

I finally let it go, and just got into the car...i'm better now..but it sure stings every time i think about it
Yeah some guys think there car guys but have no clue how to care for one.
Old Aug 23, 2020 | 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
I noticed the olds pull up in front of house.
im like wtf is he driving it for?.
Sorry to hear this.

Originally Posted by droldsmorland
Did you verify mileage before and after the trip?
If there is a discrepancy I'd cut open the oil filter to check for metal as well as dropping the oil...all while recording it and a shot of the odometer. If he beat on it and caused internal damage this could save your azz. Listen to the engine closely.

Check the rear fender wells and tire treads for burn out evidence. Photograph!
Nightmare, these cars have an almost mythical aura for some. They just need to feel it.... I've had acquaintances tell me a previous Olds of mine was doing hole shots etc by a shop that was doing work on it, not performance related. That was just a Cutlass, so I could imagine a 442 inspiring much more desire....

Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
Is that with that rubber is all over the quarter panel I was wondering where that came from
Man I hope you are kidding...

Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
I should be good with a new stone shield and a little elbow grease this is gonna be a driver.
Good, and I'm sure it being a driver vs a show car made it a lot easier to swallow.


P.S. guys for any off us that may be in a similar situation in the future. When first approaching your new to you car besides looking, smell, and listen intently. Our cars will often heat ping the metal when driven hard and fast once immediately shut off. You may also smell brakes or excessive gas, all potentially indicating that the car was wailed on.
Old Aug 23, 2020 | 06:44 PM
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I was kidding about the rubber on the quarter
he drove it 3 houses over still wasn’t happy

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