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1973 442 350 4 spd

Old Feb 15, 2024 | 01:46 PM
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1973 442 350 4 spd

How many 73 442's with factory 350 4spds are out there in the group? Wondering just how rare and how many left?
Old Feb 15, 2024 | 02:52 PM
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Neither of those answers will be related to how many people here have one.
Old Feb 15, 2024 | 06:53 PM
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Just trying to start a discussion with interested people..doesn't look like its one on your long
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Old Feb 16, 2024 | 02:17 PM
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Hi and welcome to Classic Olds dot com (CO for short)
Post a pic of the VIN and cowl tags, we can decipher them for you. We are picture ****** here. Lets see some pics of your 73.

This question will open up a can of worms as it historically has in past posts, but hopefully all will behave and play well in the sandbox.
Do a Google search. Many times it will bring you back to an archival post here at CO. Google search engine is 10X more powerful that COs.

We have a few resident expert members that are knowledgeable on the Colonades.
The 5th character/digit in the VIN will designate the engine CID the car was born with. However, It will not tell you if its a 442.
You will need the build sheet or window sticker to prove its a Cutlass ordered with the W29 (442) option.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...42-ebay-74929/
https://oldsjunction.classicoldsmobi...htm#442%201973

My numbers show a total production run of 1973 442s = 10,137 units.
Specifically:
-model F37 Cutlass Hard top = 15ea, 4 speeds. (both L34 & L75 engines).
-model G37 Cutlass "S" hard top = 871ea, 4 speeds. (both L34 & L75 engines).
Basically anything with a stick in 73 is rare, Cutlass or 442!
Steve



Old Feb 17, 2024 | 09:14 AM
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Picture ******... that's funny. Yes we are. Pictures please...
Old Feb 17, 2024 | 09:54 AM
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I would actually be surprised if anybody on CO other than OP (if he in fact owns one) has a '73 4-4-2 350/factory 4-speed.

They don't turn up too often.
Old Feb 17, 2024 | 11:07 AM
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I would be surprised if anyone owns a '73 Olds anything. They dissolved in rain.
Old Feb 17, 2024 | 11:34 AM
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I had a friend in college who had a 1973 V-code 442. I certainly didn't appreciate how rare that car was at the time. It was also surprisingly quick.
Old Feb 17, 2024 | 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
I would be surprised if anyone owns a '73 Olds anything. They dissolved in rain.
I still see a few B-bodies from that era around, but with regard to the A's you must be right. I haven't seen one in person for years.
Old Feb 17, 2024 | 06:12 PM
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So hey to the Original Poster or OP to the people that can't spell anymore.
Show some pictures??
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
My numbers show a total production run of 1973 442s = 10,137 units.
Specifically:
-model F37 Cutlass Hard top = 15ea, 4 speeds. (both L34 & L75 engines).
-model G37 Cutlass "S" hard top = 871ea, 4 speeds. (both L34 & L75 engines).
Basically anything with a stick in 73 is rare, Cutlass or 442!
Steve


Wow. I'd heard the 871 4-speed figure but thought that was total for the base Cutlass and the S. I have once again learned something.

I've seen four 1973 4-speed 442 in my time. All 455s. I have seen one non-442 350/4-speed S and one Supreme.

Yup. Rare birds.
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 09:58 AM
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Saw this one at the 2015 Car Craft Summer Nationals in Milwaukee.
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 10:01 AM
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And a V code Hurst/Olds in 2016.
Old Feb 18, 2024 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 75 W-30 H/O


And a V code Hurst/Olds in 2016.
Apparently the H/Os used the V-code (manual trans) engine with the TH400. Lesser 1973 cars only got the V-code engine with the M20, which was the trans in my friend's 73




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Old Feb 19, 2024 | 09:16 AM
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I have what I believe is a 1973 442 that should be a 350 4 speed car.
I say should be as when I purchased it in approximately 1988 it had a 350 in it however it was not the correct engine for the car.
If I recall correctly, it was a 1969 350 that I now wish I had kept.
The car is also non air conditioning with a bench seat.
For some reason I seem to remember checking the VIN and thinking it's not an original four speed car but it it's not someone went to a lot of trouble to change it to a 4-speed car.
I haven't looked at the VIN in years as life got in the way of completing the restoration. (At least it has been inside)
Guess I need to have another look.
I do have a 1973 350 that could go in it, just wouldn't be numbers matching.
Old Feb 20, 2024 | 05:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Don McDonald
For some reason I seem to remember checking the VIN and thinking it's not an original four speed car but it it's not someone went to a lot of trouble to change it to a 4-speed car.
I haven't looked at the VIN in years as life got in the way of completing the restoration. (At least it has been inside)
Guess I need to have another look.
On a 350 car, the VIN won't tell you if it was a four speed or not. See the VIN graphic I posted above. All the VIN will tell you is 2bbl or 4bbl, single or dual exhaust. (VINs H, J, K, or M).
Old Feb 20, 2024 | 06:50 AM
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Joe,
Thanks for the reply.
After looking at the chart a little more I realized what you are talking about.
It would appear that my car is fairly uncommon.
Wish I had the original engine.
I've always wondered how many came off the assembly line with the bench seat (no console) and no air conditioning.
Thanks again.
Don McDonald
Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:01 AM
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Are the 1973 Engines the same as the 1972 Engines? Like does U and V mean the same thing as the previous year?
Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Are the 1973 Engines the same as the 1972 Engines? Like does U and V mean the same thing as the previous year?
Pretty much. Obviously the X-code got dropped.




Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:37 AM
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I would be surprised if anyone owns a '73 Olds anything. They dissolved in rain.
Eat sh*t.




Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:41 AM
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Had one of these for a few years about a decade ago, too. Look at it dissolving.



Old Feb 20, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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Eat sh*t.
I don't know about the full size cars, but one of the problems with restoring the Colonnade cars is that the interiors were made from self-destructing plastic. I guess it was biodegradable before that was fashionable.
Old Feb 20, 2024 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I don't know about the full size cars
Neither does Mr. Koda, obviously, but at least you're gracious enough to acknowledge it.
Old Mar 24, 2024 | 01:37 PM
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1973 cutlass supreme

Hello, gentleman. I'm looking for some parts for 1973 cutlass supreme driver side fender and Passenger fender. And passenger door. Can anyone one help me out?
Old Mar 24, 2024 | 03:05 PM
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I don't own a 73 but I have a pretty damn nice 75 that is not rusty.
Old Mar 24, 2024 | 03:38 PM
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Hello, gentleman. I'm looking for some parts for 1973 cutlass supreme driver side fender and Passenger fender. And passenger door. Can anyone one help me out?
Probably best to start a thread in "Parts Wanted". This one seems to have pretty much run its course,

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Old Mar 24, 2024 | 03:50 PM
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Neither does Mr. Koda, obviously, but at least you're gracious enough to acknowledge it.
Originally Posted by redoldsman
I don't own a 73 but I have a pretty damn nice 75 that is not rusty.
Old Mar 24, 2024 | 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by redoldsman
I don't own a 73 but I have a pretty damn nice 75 that is not rusty.
Sorry sir I need all the original parts.
Old Jan 25, 2025 | 12:50 PM
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Hello, just saw your post. I have a 73 Cutlass Supreme with a 3 speed manual on the column. It was ordered with 350/4bbl AC, Clock, lighting package, Bumper guards, rubber inserts on front and rear bumpers, 323 Posi and factory rear sway bar in Brewster Green with black vinyl top and interior . There can not be too many of these made.

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Old Jan 25, 2025 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cutlassmoe
Hello, just saw your post. I have a 73 Cutlass Supreme with a 3 speed manual on the column. It was ordered with 350/4bbl AC, Clock, lighting package, Bumper guards, rubber inserts on front and rear bumpers, 323 Posi and factory rear sway bar in Brewster Green with black vinyl top and interior . There can not be too many of these made.

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Very cool. The 350 4bbl and column-shifted three speed manual was base equipment on the Supreme in 1973. There couldn't have been many that left the factory that way.
Old Jan 26, 2025 | 05:30 AM
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[QUOTE=cutlassmoe;1613137]Hello, just saw your post. I have a 73 Cutlass Supreme with a 3 speed manual on the column.

Very cool indeed. I’d like to see pictures of this car😎
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Old Feb 10, 2025 | 12:06 PM
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Nice car. Not to be a ***** but could we see inside, the 3 on the tree part that makes it very rare?
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