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Old October 28th, 2024 | 07:56 PM
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1970 w30 gold on gold

Some of you may recall I bought a complete, tad rough 70 4 speed W30 4 years back. Had the original numbers block came with it, just not in car, had the factory carb, dizzy etc. only thing missing was alternator, water pump and radiator. Well I welded in a fixed both lower front fenders, cut out and welded in a new outer wheel house and the rear drivers side wheel lip. I bought a repop quarter and cut out only what I needed. I pulled the engine and rebuilt it with the factory original block, found a correct alternator and water pump. Lots of misc items fixed and worked on. It was featured on Muscle Car Campy you tube channel in June. I have since had it completely repainted, just got it back Saturday. She is looking good, 100% correct car withstanding the radiator..been a lot of work but have truly enjoyed every moment of it. Being retired gave me plenty of time to do lots of work..by the way, she still runs great on points and that original distributor!! Code 58 burnished gold. Still trying to decide whether to paint the wheels argent, leave alone or go to SS1’s. The car came from factory steel wheels and caps..









Old October 28th, 2024 | 08:08 PM
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Nice work. Congrats on a hard job well done!

PS -- I'd go with SS I's just because the SS II thing is kind of done to death. If you decide to stick with the SS II's I think they look better in body color, even if it's not correct.

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Old October 28th, 2024 | 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
Nice work. Congrats on a hard job well done!

PS -- I'd go with SS I's just because the SS II link is kind of done to death. If you decide to stick with the IT'S, I think they look better in body color, even if its not correct.
Thank you, i have an extra set of SS1’s. I think I will do that. Seriously thought about steelies and dog dish since she came factory like that
Old October 28th, 2024 | 09:12 PM
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Get some pads on those pedals. I still have a ding in an ankle from slipping off of one like that and getting bit.

I'm not sure what to recommend on rims. The option loadout on the car is interesting, so it's not a low option stripper, nor is it a convertible automatic AC car with everything. Don't do wires. I wouldn't bother painting the rims. Are you going to show the car in a serious manner? If so, get correct wheels, put repro bias on them and maintain two sets of rims with tires by keeping these as is to drive for fun, and the concours rims in the garage.

As the man from Vancouver said, the SSIIs are overdone. I like the no trim ring SSIs. They're not for '70 though. Poverties are always nice, if yours was a post, I'd recommend that. I guess, since you have them, do up the SSIs.
Old October 28th, 2024 | 10:00 PM
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Very nice restoration!
Do you have before pix to share?
IMO I like the sea of gold. It screams 70s.
SS3s belong on 70-77s. Just cuz I grew up looking at them is my reason. Never get tired of that design.
SS1s are cool on the older cars.
SS2s go good on certain colors, gold isn't one of them IMO.
Maintaining a couple sets is cool as you can switch it up.
If those SS3s are 15" and you want to dump them Id be interested.
Old October 29th, 2024 | 03:34 AM
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Get some pads on those pedals. I still have a ding in an ankle from slipping off of one like that and getting bit.

I'm not sure what to recommend on rims. The option loadout on the car is interesting, so it's not a low option stripper, nor is it a convertible automatic AC car with everything. Don't do wires. I wouldn't bother painting the rims. Are you going to show the car in a serious manner? If so, get correct wheels, put repro bias on them and maintain two sets of rims with tires by keeping these as is to drive for fun, and the concours rims in the garage.

As the man from Vancouver said, the SSIIs are overdone. I like the no trim ring SSIs. They're not for '70 though. Poverties are always nice, if yours was a post, I'd recommend that. I guess, since you have them, do up the SSIs.
‘I already have the pedals ordered, also new inside door and trunk stickers along with some weather stripping. This is not a frame off by any means but Garners did an excellent job on a repaint. The car had one repaint in 1986 by the second owner, factory lacquer. It’s a 62,000 original car. The second owner and I have talked on many many occasions as he bought it from the original owner in 1978 from Don Woods with 48,000miles. I take my cars to shows locally mainly, I don’t own a trailer and am reluctant to put theses old cars on I4 to shows in the Lakeland Orlando area. As you are aware being a former Florida guy.. it’s a crazy road. Honestly John I am not much of a trophy guy, when I go I pay the fee to support car shows but rarely stay to see who thinks what’s the best. I love driving my cars..
Old October 29th, 2024 | 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by droldsmorland
Very nice restoration!
Do you have before pix to share?
IMO I like the sea of gold. It screams 70s.
SS3s belong on 70-77s. Just cuz I grew up looking at them is my reason. Never get tired of that design.
SS1s are cool on the older cars.
SS2s go good on certain colors, gold isn't one of them IMO.
Maintaining a couple sets is cool as you can switch it up.
If those SS3s are 15" and you want to dump them Id be interested.
‘Thank you, they are 14” wheels off a 1974 omega I believe. The car was in very good overall shape with one repaint in 86. Rust is what I fixed and blended the paint etc myself with lacquer I got from tcp global.. it looked good but I decided to give the old girl a new coat of paint . A couple old pics when I bought it. It’s a never been wrecked all original body panel car.




Old October 29th, 2024 | 03:46 AM
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Great looking car. Nice job bringing up to date. I like the SS I's too on that car
Old October 29th, 2024 | 04:17 AM
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Very nice! That paint looks incredible!
Anyone local to Sarasota?

And if we’re voting, steel wheels for the win!
Old October 29th, 2024 | 05:29 AM
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Very nice job, I luv the color combo, also I like the factory wheels & no console with the hurst coming through the floor, nice !!!.. BUT the only thing I would do different is get a correct set of tires please !!

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Old October 29th, 2024 | 05:39 AM
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Yeah, those tires are only good if you plan to drive it!
Old October 29th, 2024 | 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by zl1 camaro
Very nice job, I luv the color combo, also I like the factory wheels & no console with the hurst coming through the floor, nice !!!.. BUT the only thing I would do different is get a correct set of tires please !!
Bias ply? No thanks
Old October 29th, 2024 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Rallye469
Very nice! That paint looks incredible!
Anyone local to Sarasota?

And if we’re voting, steel wheels for the win!
Garner Customs and Restorations here in Sarasota . They do a lot of Oldsmobiles, they do a lot of cars mainly frame off stuff.
Old October 29th, 2024 | 07:48 AM
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Love that gold on gold with black stripes! Job well done!
Old October 29th, 2024 | 08:46 AM
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Andy,

Great job on your ride. I hope to run into you sometime on the road. One of my favorite colors from Oldsmobile.
Old October 29th, 2024 | 09:22 AM
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Yes, Florida traffic blows.

I drove my H/O last week with its old bias tires. Car has a hooking problem, lol. I'm debating on the repro Kelsey Coker Goodyears or going with Diamondbacks which are BFG Radial TAs.

So, Andy, if you rock the poverties....gold wheels or black wheels?

I am not one for judged shows, but it was a thought. I have another set of SSIIs for my 68 that I might gin up into show wheels. Need rings and caps. I am trying to get a H/OCA sticker: "Join the H/OCA: We Don't Judge!"
Old October 29th, 2024 | 09:32 AM
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Yes, Florida traffic blows.

I drove my H/O last week with its old bias tires. Car has a hooking problem, lol. I'm debating on the repro Kelsey Coker Goodyears or going with Diamondbacks which are BFG Radial TAs.

So, Andy, if you rock the poverties....gold wheels or black wheels?

I am not one for judged shows, but it was a thought. I have another set of SSIIs for my 68 that I might gin up into show wheels. Need rings and caps. I am trying to get a H/OCA sticker: "Join the H/OCA: We Don't Judge!"
great question on body colored steel wheels or black, i’ve been told that in 1970 the steel wheels were body color however I watched a car on bring a trailer that was us like 6000 mile original W30 that sold and it came with black wheels and hubcaps and it was burnished gold as well so I’m a little confused. Do you know which ones the correct answer? When you look one up on the Internet, it usually has body colored steel wheels but heck I’m just not sure 100%.
The current Cooper cobra tires on the car is about all that you can get in 14 inch radials, unless you go with the redline ones you’re talking about
Old October 29th, 2024 | 09:49 AM
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Well Diamondback will do whatever you want.

So, stock, from factory, A body poverties were always body color. Except maybe the cop cars, which, I am sure, some part of a cop car paint scheme was usually black, plus I think they were 88s. You can paint them gold, but you have to paint match well. You can paint them black, but the car might look like an undercover cop car at the wheel level.
Old October 29th, 2024 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Andy
great question on body colored steel wheels or black, i’ve been told that in 1970 the steel wheels were body color however I watched a car on bring a trailer that was us like 6000 mile original W30 that sold and it came with black wheels and hubcaps and it was burnished gold as well so I’m a little confused. Do you know which ones the correct answer? When you look one up on the Internet, it usually has body colored steel wheels but heck I’m just not sure 100%.
The current Cooper cobra tires on the car is about all that you can get in 14 inch radials, unless you go with the redline ones you’re talking about
The original steelies on your car would have been body color. Excellent color combo you have there.....looks great.
Old October 29th, 2024 | 10:44 AM
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Hi Andy,
Man, that is a beautiful car! I am a sucker for gold with black trim on these cars. If we're voting on wheels, I'd say first off make sure they're 15's. 14's may be original but they looked too small even when these cars were new. I'd go SSI, if it were me. I think the poverty cap look is a little played but lots of people still like it.
By the way, the block that came out of that car is very close to getting its second lease on life via Mark
Old October 29th, 2024 | 11:29 AM
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I'm not too fond of the tread pattern on-to the sidewall on the diamonds. They look like snow tires IMO.
Do the Coopers and turn the black wall out. Lost my taste for BFGs even though they stood behind the brown letters. The warranty replacements browned too. I had to paint them white. They are ready next year or two for replacement...already!




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I have same car same color, but with 15 inch SS1 wheels. Not sure you can get a good look at them on sign on?
Old October 29th, 2024 | 05:47 PM
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Here with 15 inch SS1

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Here with 15 inch SS1


Old October 29th, 2024 | 06:46 PM
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Nice job Andy! Mine with 15" SS 3's painted Argent.


Old October 30th, 2024 | 11:37 AM
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Hi Andy,
Man, that is a beautiful car! I am a sucker for gold with black trim on these cars. If we're voting on wheels, I'd say first off make sure they're 15's. 14's may be original but they looked too small even when these cars were new. I'd go SSI, if it were me. I think the poverty cap look is a little played but lots of people still like it.
By the way, the block that came out of that car is very close to getting its second lease on life via Mark
Thats great, I am sure it will be 500 horse by the time Remmel gets done with it..😝
Old October 30th, 2024 | 01:32 PM
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Thats great, I am sure it will be 500 horse by the time Remmel gets done with it..😝
I will need to bring him some 67 442 engines at some point.
Old October 30th, 2024 | 01:52 PM
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Looks great Andy. Garner did a fantastic job with the paint & stripes.
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