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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:22 AM
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1970 442 Overflow position with washer bottle on passenger side

What’s up Oldsmobile friends!
I am installing an radiator overflow. I need to know correct way to install with washer bottle and smog canister all in same area. I bought overflow from the Parts Place it came with bracket and spacer. The directions do not have washer bottle and canister in it. I am trying to build factory correct car. I know I can do without canister and I know I can move washer bottle but that would not be correct. Can anyone please help with pictures or advice ? Thanks in advance!





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Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:24 AM
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When I follow directions everything seems to be bunched up. I’ve seen the overflow positioned sideways also but do not have brackets.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by huskalade
When I follow directions everything seems to be bunched up. I’ve seen the overflow positioned sideways also but do not have brackets.

Not understanding what you mean...


>WHAT is "bunched up"??? Of course it is.....you have 3 different items all mounted close together.

>What do you mean when you say "....but do not have brackets"?? You show a black painted metal bracket in one of your pics.....so what are you referring to?
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:32 AM
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Not understanding what you mean...


>WHAT is "bunched up"??? Of course it is.....you have 3 different items all mounted close together.

>What do you mean when you say "....but do not have brackets"?? You show a black painted metal bracket in one of your pics.....so what are you referring to?
bunched up . Yes they are close together . Is that the correct way it was installed factory? Because there is no room to mount bracket on lower radiator support like directions say.

And the bracket i am talking about are sideways mounting brackets that I do not have.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:43 AM
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Sorry I didn’t explain correctly 70Post . What am trying to figure out is the correct way to mount overflow with washer bottle and canister.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 10:32 AM
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70 model years did not come with an overflow bottle from the factory. Anything you do will be a custom application
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 70W-32
70 model years did not come with an overflow bottle from the factory. Anything you do will be a custom application
thanks for info. Much appreciated
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 70W-32
70 model years did not come with an overflow bottle from the factory. Anything you do will be a custom application
Out of curiosity, when did Oldsmobile start with the overflow and how did they set it up. Thanks for the help
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 11:42 AM
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heres an older thread on this

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-tank-q-2.html




Old Apr 18, 2018 | 11:45 AM
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Originally Posted by 70W-32
70 model years did not come with an overflow bottle from the factory. Anything you do will be a custom application
Originally Posted by scottv442
thanks scottv442. I seen that thread also . But there is no washer bottle on passenger side .
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 12:07 PM
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yup....washer bottles were relocated to driver side when overflow tanks were used.
dealers would do the relocates.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 12:20 PM
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yup....washer bottles were relocated to driver side when overflow tanks were used.
dealers would do the relocates.
wow ok . I am assuming this must of been after 1970 because it was mentioned that an overflow wasn’t installed in 1970 . Do you know what year did they introduce the overflow? I always thought it was an option for 1970 . Thanks for info
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overflow tanks were optional over the counter or dealer installed at owners request prior to 1973. and only mandatory in some states after 1973-74, then standard equipment per EPA regs. onwards. in 1970 it was over the counter option for everyone.
it was common to see the dealer relocate the washer bottle to drivers side when the overflow tank was causing interferrance installed. otherwise they have same problem as your having.
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Originally Posted by scottv442
overflow tanks were optional over the counter or dealer installed at owners request prior to 1973. and only mandatory in some states after 1973-74, then standard equipment per EPA regs. onwards. in 1970 it was over the counter option for everyone.
it was common to see the dealer relocate the washer bottle to drivers side when the overflow tank was causing interferrance installed. otherwise they have same problem as your having.
Thanks for the help . Great stuff, I didn’t know.
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Originally Posted by huskalade
...what year did they introduce the overflow?
It was a dealer installed option starting in 1971. If someone complained about overflow, the dealer would install the reservoir.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 07:03 PM
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Did 70-442's come with a smog canister?

Have never noticed one before.
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by capstoneclub
Have never noticed one before.
I also posted thread in different forums and someone said it is a vapor canister. Here is link https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...nger-side.html

My car is a CA numbers matching base 442 and this was with the vehicle ever since I’ve owned it in 1999.
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Ahh, Cali car.

That makes sense
Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:21 PM
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That makes sense
still doesn’t make sense to me lol I always learn something new on this site. It’s great site and members always helping out ! Thumbs up !

Old Apr 18, 2018 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by VC455
It was a dealer installed option starting in 1971. If someone complained about overflow, the dealer would install the reservoir.
thank you
Old Apr 19, 2018 | 07:11 AM
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1970 Cutlasses only came with the smog equipment if they were going to be sold new in CA. My 70 was built in CA but was sold new in Portland OR so it had no smog equipment on the P side. I see you are in CA so if your car was sold new there, then the canister would be correct
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1970 Cutlasses only came with the smog equipment if they were going to be sold new in CA.
For another example, my 1970 was built in Lansing but sold new in LA, so it had the vapor canister.
Old Apr 20, 2018 | 05:29 AM
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Also have a '70 W30 with canister, just purchased a good used one because one fitting was broke. Thought that dealer would install overflow in '70 on the 455 if you were have problems.
Old Oct 25, 2019 | 01:07 PM
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What is the second hose?

I am installing the Fusick version of this overflow reservoir. What is the second hose for? Is that an overflow for the overflow bottle? Looks like it from the diagrams I have seen.
Old Oct 25, 2019 | 03:27 PM
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I am installing the Fusick version of this overflow reservoir. What is the second hose for? Is that an overflow for the overflow bottle? Looks like it from the diagrams I have seen.
Yep, just incase you overfill everything, or overheat badly. Make sure you connect your hoses to the correct nipples. The one that connects to the long hose that goes to the bottom of the overflow tank connects to the radiator.
Old Oct 26, 2019 | 03:13 AM
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Just reading this now. My washer bottle was on the driver's side and had been there a long time on my 70 S. In fact so long it was basically yellow and brittle and no overflow bottle for the coolant. Good to know it belongs on the driver's side.
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Just reading this now. My washer bottle was on the driver's side and had been there a long time on my 70 S. In fact so long it was basically yellow and brittle and no overflow bottle for the coolant. Good to know it belongs on the driver's side.
Yep, 350 cars go on drivers side, 455 cars go on passenger side. Ive been told it was an engineering change to clear the larger battery/tray used on 455 cars, but not sure how true that is. Assembly manual may shed more light
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