1968 442 vert documentation help
December 6th, 2013, 10:29 PM
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1968 442 vert documentation help
hey guys, im trying to find out some production numbers for my 68 442. from what i can find and of the thousands of 442s made, approx 5000 verts, 3000 vert autos. thats about as low as i can find.
where/how does everybody find that cars are 1 of X made??
a list of what my is...
kind of base
ocean turquoise
auto
non a/c
white top
black int.
no fender stripe
ive seen some with the antenna on the front fender, mine is on the rear quarter
not sure of availabe options other than power int and a/c lol
where/how does everybody find that cars are 1 of X made??
a list of what my is...
kind of base
ocean turquoise
auto
non a/c
white top
black int.
no fender stripe
ive seen some with the antenna on the front fender, mine is on the rear quarter
not sure of availabe options other than power int and a/c lol
Last edited by Mr.Smooth; December 6th, 2013 at 10:31 PM.
December 6th, 2013, 11:11 PM
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I have a k code 442 3 speed manual some 150 made or something. Yes 68 produced the most 442 converts 5100 something i believe but def over 5000.
Aside from there is no breakdown of colors or how many came with other than drive train specs.
Most antenns in front - power antenna in the rear unless installed aftermarket.
Hope that helps
Aside from there is no breakdown of colors or how many came with other than drive train specs.
Most antenns in front - power antenna in the rear unless installed aftermarket.
Hope that helps
December 7th, 2013, 07:38 PM
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According to my figures, there were 5,142 4-4-2 convertibles made in model year 1968. There were also 4,726 4-4-2 sport coupes and 26,773 4-4-2 holiday coupes produced for model year 1968, for a total of 36,641 4-4-2 models. Other than that, other particular break-downs are not available.
I've wondered about certain specifics for my '68 4-4-2 convertible as well. It came from the factory with a bench seat. Ads in Hemmings Motor News in the late 1980s used to say that only 201 '68 4-4-2 convertibles were built with bench seats. I don't know where that number came from, or where it went, but numbers like that just don't seem to be available right now for Oldsmobiles. Maybe someday someone will open an archive somewhere and find all of these numbers but, until now, we just have to live with what we've got!
Also, in looking at the picture of your car and the location of the 4-4-2 numbers on the fender, I'm thinking that your car did have the W36 stripes at one time but were removed, perhaps during a re-paint. It just might be the angle of the picture that gives that appearance (note that the 4-4-2 numbers on the fenders were put in a different location for the W36 stripe, than for cars without the W36).
Randy C,.
I've wondered about certain specifics for my '68 4-4-2 convertible as well. It came from the factory with a bench seat. Ads in Hemmings Motor News in the late 1980s used to say that only 201 '68 4-4-2 convertibles were built with bench seats. I don't know where that number came from, or where it went, but numbers like that just don't seem to be available right now for Oldsmobiles. Maybe someday someone will open an archive somewhere and find all of these numbers but, until now, we just have to live with what we've got!
Also, in looking at the picture of your car and the location of the 4-4-2 numbers on the fender, I'm thinking that your car did have the W36 stripes at one time but were removed, perhaps during a re-paint. It just might be the angle of the picture that gives that appearance (note that the 4-4-2 numbers on the fenders were put in a different location for the W36 stripe, than for cars without the W36).
Randy C,.
December 8th, 2013, 05:02 AM
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Mr Smooth's fender numbers are in the standard position not the position for the W36 stripe. If you zoom the pic you can see how far away from the door they are.
Like everyone has said. There isn't much available for production records. I'm amazed how few 68 verts seem to be around considering, as Dean said, that they were the highest production for that era.
Like everyone has said. There isn't much available for production records. I'm amazed how few 68 verts seem to be around considering, as Dean said, that they were the highest production for that era.
December 8th, 2013, 08:59 AM
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so true
Mr Smooth's fender numbers are in the standard position not the position for the W36 stripe. If you zoom the pic you can see how far away from the door they are.
Like everyone has said. There isn't much available for production records. I'm amazed how few 68 verts seem to be around considering, as Dean said, that they were the highest production for that era.
Like everyone has said. There isn't much available for production records. I'm amazed how few 68 verts seem to be around considering, as Dean said, that they were the highest production for that era.
Wow that is true come to think about it, lol maybe convert is not going lol
December 8th, 2013, 12:14 PM
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Okay, in addition to the production, we know the breakdown of W30 and the transmission breakdown by model and W30.
442
Sports Coupe
373 3-spd manual
1,969 4-spd
2,384 Auto
442
Holiday Coupe
769 3-spd manual
9,433 4-spd
16,517 Auto
442
Convert
148 3-spd manual
1,518 4-spd
3,476 Auto
W30
Sports Coupe
246 4-spd
69 Auto
W30
Holiday Coupe
1,111 4-spd
319 Auto
W30
Convert
127 4-spd
43 Auto
442
Sports Coupe
373 3-spd manual
1,969 4-spd
2,384 Auto
442
Holiday Coupe
769 3-spd manual
9,433 4-spd
16,517 Auto
442
Convert
148 3-spd manual
1,518 4-spd
3,476 Auto
W30
Sports Coupe
246 4-spd
69 Auto
W30
Holiday Coupe
1,111 4-spd
319 Auto
W30
Convert
127 4-spd
43 Auto
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December 8th, 2013, 12:49 PM
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December 9th, 2013, 10:59 AM
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Yes.
Your 373 is correct, and I have now corrected my previous post. Glad you caught that. I mistakenly pulled the 422 from 1967!
However, Randy still has 54 more Holiday Coupes than I have. I suspect he snuck them out the back door when they were new.
However, Randy still has 54 more Holiday Coupes than I have. I suspect he snuck them out the back door when they were new.
December 9th, 2013, 12:24 PM
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Haa Kurt the fat finger or dyslexic gods are with you...For 68, 442, Holidays, I have 26,773 total. 769 3spd, 9433 4spd and 16571 ATs. I think you or someone may have transposed the 16571 ATs to 16517...no? Hence the elusive 54 MIA never made "back door" cars. This total isnt accounting for the 1426 W30 Holiday (4487) Coupes.
December 9th, 2013, 01:00 PM
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Haa Kurt the fat finger or dyslexic gods are with you...For 68, 442, Holidays, I have 26,773 total. 769 3spd, 9433 4spd and 16571 ATs. I think you or someone may have transposed the 16571 ATs to 16517...no? Hence the elusive 54 MIA never made "back door" cars. This total isnt accounting for the 1426 W30 Holiday (4487) Coupes.
December 9th, 2013, 06:59 PM
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"W30
Convert
127 4-spd
43 Auto"
=================
I like that part
I stumbled onto one of forty three auto trans 1968 W30's
OP, look on your trans, RH side, about midway fore/aft
"im guessing the auto is the 3 speed auto? did they even make a 4 speed auto lol"
============
Oh, hell no. TH350 3-spd auto for Small Block cars
TH400 3-spd auto for BB cars
TH425 3-spd auto for Toronado/Motorhome
Go look at post #5 here
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...sump-plug.html
showing the Bonney oil plug tool.
Notice the "74-OM" trans tag. That's what you are looking for on your trans. Typically covered in grunge. Clean it with oil [WD40] and a plastic toothbrush or similar so as not to damage the finish. Yours should say 68 OG or 68 OW perhaps.
Convert
127 4-spd
43 Auto"
=================
I like that part
I stumbled onto one of forty three auto trans 1968 W30's
OP, look on your trans, RH side, about midway fore/aft
"im guessing the auto is the 3 speed auto? did they even make a 4 speed auto lol"
============
Oh, hell no. TH350 3-spd auto for Small Block cars
TH400 3-spd auto for BB cars
TH425 3-spd auto for Toronado/Motorhome
Go look at post #5 here
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...sump-plug.html
showing the Bonney oil plug tool.
Notice the "74-OM" trans tag. That's what you are looking for on your trans. Typically covered in grunge. Clean it with oil [WD40] and a plastic toothbrush or similar so as not to damage the finish. Yours should say 68 OG or 68 OW perhaps.
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December 10th, 2013, 11:03 AM
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Ah "it" happens. Usually its me with the fat finger dyslexic affliction. Everything I have has 16571. I do have a typo in the "fact sheet" from a 25 year old Year One catalog. They days before the glossy pages! Its off by one car. It says 26772 vs 26773 for 68, 4487s, and I just caught that! I like the way we can all learn and have fun with our knowledge here and not get fat heads (well most of us). Its all about the cars not our egos. Kurt thanks for all you do here and wildaboutcars!
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