Beautiful 1966 442 L69 documented car on bring a trailer auction going on right now. Black on black, 4 speed, ac, headrest..currently at 40k..but will go up for sure.

 

1966 Oldsmobile 442 Tri-Power 4-Speed for sale on BaT Auctions - ending December 31 (Lot #41,297) | Bring a Trailer

 

Be crazy if it actually sells at 40.. with all the documents I would very surprised as it sold at Barrett for 66k in 2006 I think.

 

A/C was available on an L69?

 

according to thr build sheet

 

Car is up to 44k now, couple funky things about it, white head liner and visors etc. originally a light colored green car was not black. Muncie is later model 660 case..not like thats a deal breaker..who knows if its original engine but its an E block B head 66 with the V T stamping on head. Nice damn car, virtual twin to mine but this one has all the docs and nicer paint..wife says buy it, sell yours..one reason..it has ac..lol.. no aftermarket ac for my car made that I can find.

 

I love the car, but have no more room. I suppose it might not appeal to a purist, but I'd buy it and enjoy the hell out of it.

 

The white headliner is correct.

 

For a black interior? Mine is all black interior, headliner, sail panels everything. Never saw a black interior with white headliner but my expertise is more gto and firebird..I just checked the auction, car went for 75k.. strong money..

 

I don’t know, I am somewhat of a purist within reason and that car with all the docs could be made 100% rather easily.

 

That appeared to be a nice car. There can't be many factory tri carb cars out there. Were the head rests available in 66? I thought 67 was the first year. I hope to put a 66 in the garage one day. I let one get away a few years ago. Timing just was not right.

Don W

 

Yes headrests were available in 66 along with a passenger side reclining seat.

 

I agree, how many documented L69 cars are out there? looked damn fine to me, I have one very similiar, black on black factory 4 speed car..Mine has a tricarb I put on it, correct engine, trans and rear end but no ac, headrest, power brakes and not as nice a paint as that one. I just got the dash back from resto, all the ***** came back disassembled so hav3 to figure that out before I put the dash back in..love the car tho..66 442 to me was the pinnacle.

 

Looks like it Sold for $75,500. Lots of money. Hope the new owner drives it. Very nice rare car. Love those 66 Cutlass.

Have a happy and safe new year and many more.

Wayne

 

Beautiful car. A/C was $353 option...that’s almost $2850 in today’s dollar !

 

It's a nice car no doubt but it has some issues for sure. Most are under the hood. No way is this a 75K car. The engine ID # does NOT match the POP,it has the wrong period intake,it has a Cutlass front brake line.not a 442 unit. It has the wrong valve cover breather,wrong horn relay,wrong bypass hose,throttle rod is wrong etc. Again,just commenting on what I see wrong,not bashing.

 

Hey Mike.
In my quest for accurate knowledge, a few questions. So the intake is a different date than the build of the car? Like the Az,Au etc tells you that? Brake line, whats the diff between cutlass 442? Throttle rod so your saying its a 4 barrel rod, not the bent tricarb rod from bell crank to center carb? Engine id not match, what you mean? Ithought there was no way to tell other than correct year but no serial number match until 67? Also the muncie is a 660 case, thats like 68 or later.. Appreciate you educating me.
happy NEW year
Andy

 

Yes,the car has a late build date & should have a AZ intake. The 442 front brake line runs in front of the cross member,not behind it.The engine ID # on the front of the head doesn't match the POP. The engine ID # on the car is V1049xxx and the POP engine # is V118XXX. It looks like it still has the 4V bellcrank because it has an adjustment end instead of the 90* bend as required on a 3X2 car. It even has studs/nuts on the thermostat housing and the hoses do not criss cross. The dash pad is coming apart, the washer nozzles are not installed as OEM. I'm not trying to down the car,it's nice but for it to be a $75 K car,IMHO no way.

 

Since school is in session. On 4 speed cars was the vacuum guage standard or optional if tach was ordered? I picked up a pretty nice block off plate for the console today.
Thanks
Don W

 

Don

64/65 all consoles had a tach. 66 all had a vacuum gauge & 67-69 had the 'Rocket" emblem in it's place. If you look @ the 66 we have been talking about,you will see it not only has headrests but also has the reclining passenger seat. The above info on the tach/gauge also applies to the auto consoles as well 64-66. 67-69 auto does not.

Mike

 

Thanks as always for the info.

Don W

 

Anytime my man.

Mike

 

so from deduction it appears the car was a tricarb original as per the docs, but at some point the original engine was toasted and replaced or sat, another 4 barrel 400 put in it, then someone finds a tricarb unit, installs it, recreates the car. Sound reasonable?
Mike on some car 66 pics I have observed the front u water hose is crisscrossed with the heater hose on other photos they are not ..why is that? Reason I ask iswhen I put my tri carb on I didn’t criss crossthe heater hose and manifold thermostat hose. Does it make a difference?

 

Who knows why the original engine is not the car. There's not many of these cars that still have the original engines. My 66 3x2 car still had it's original engine and I had more wall paper than any 66 I have seen. The correct bypass hose usage is in the OEM tri carb instructions. The reason being is the 3x2 intake sits further forward than the regular intakes. If you look @ that car the bypass hose is almost crimped trying to make the bend. That's why the 3x2 cars use a different bypass hose. Here's a picture of my cars engine bay. Note the bypass hose.

 

Mike,
So that is a special hose for thermostat.. you have one? Also looks like I need the heater hose bracket thats on the manifold according to pics..

 

Fusick has the correct hose. The clamp is available from them also but it's listed for a 68-72. It's slightly longer than a 66 but is the only option unless you make one. You will need a studded bolt to replace the regular intake bolt so you can mount the hose clamp.

 

So non original motor. Non original paint color. Sells for 75.5k??

 

The non original engine hurts it way more than a color change providing a OEM color for the year is used IMHO.

 

75.5k for non original motor and a color change repaint just seems crazy. Especially a 66. I get it kind of it was an all original car. Almost suspect. Fool and his money I guess. What are the past prices for these?

 

Yes 75.5K is too much for that car. There's a lot wrong with it on top of that. It has eye appeal no doubt.

 

Sorry I edited my post as you replied. Is that a record price for a 66?

 

Not sure about that.

 

Thanks for your input and knowledge. Something just seems off on this auction to me. You see seriously nice numbers matching cars that can't even hit reserve these days. No offense to the 66 442 fans but 75.5k wod buy one hell of a real numbers matching W-30. Pretty much Any year.

 

They only built 2100 or so 66 tri carb cars,so that's pretty limited production. My 66 that's pictured above is 1 of 383 tri carb Sports Coupes built.

 

Don't get me wrong. I love a tri power Olds. I know they are super rare. I love them. This auction to me just seems off. If you are going to spend that kind of money on a rare rare car. Seems to me that after doing all your homework no way you would pay that kind of jack for a non numbers matching. Non original color. Non W-30 car. Not like that car could sit at a MCACN show as original yet it went for that kind of money. Hmmmm....

 

Hey Mike, I for one appreciate the education. Interesting to say the least. I don't think I could approach a purchase like that without a lot more information help.

Thanks

Wayne

 

Thanks Mike.. hope all is well. Your a wealth ok knowledge.. in reference to the cars selling price no1olds fan, the car sold at Barrett I think they said in 2006 for 65,000. I was very surprised as I thought it may hit low to mid 60’s again..however I thought that because I was under the spell it was a correct engine to pop match. Here in Sarasota there is a 66 442 convertible tricarb restored car a dealer has had for some time, it has dropped from 52 to 45k. Very nice car for the money..white..ugh... Mike, beautiful red post car...

 

See that's my point. Go get a ragtop tri power car and still have THIRTY... THIRTY K left. The black car looked great for sure. 75.5k great? Couldn't have been an educated True Olds fan. Just doesn't make sense.

 

All cars are not created equal after restoration. Each car should be judged on the quality of the car,not because it's a conv. or tri carb or whatever. If all a guy wants is a car with eye appeal and is not concerned with correctness more power to him. I sold my car for less than what the car in question brought. My car was better than that car and I'm not bragging,it's just a fact. My buddy made some comments on that car on BAT because he restored one just like it that sold @ the same time @ B-J. Some gave him a crock because of his comments but he was being very honest about the car. They don't know who they were talking to because he is the premiere 66 restorer in the country. He's dome more 66's W-30's included than anybody.

 

I saw his posts.. definitely knew what he was talking about.