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Good Morning Guys,
Quick question is the 64 & 65 Olds Cutlass Wheel Well Mouldings the same part? They look the sameBut I was wondering do they have the same GM part number?
ThanksAlsmith787
The Olds parts book lists the '64 F-85 wheel opening mouldings as part # 384270 & 384271 for RH & LH .
In 1965 they list the same numbers for a standard F-85 . But a deluxe F-85 is listed as 389312 & 389313 .
I believe the 64 wheel well trim and the wheel well trim on a '65 equipped with the very rare rocker molding would be the same...
But most 65's got this trim...or no trim at all.
-peter
Thank you very much they aren't the same again the 1964 Olds Cutlass even 442 where ABSOLUTELY UNIQUE. A TRUE ONE OF A KIND
I know one day I'll get that into my head lolAlsmith787
I believe the 64 wheel well trim and the wheel well trim on a '65 equipped with the very rare rocker molding would be the same...
But most 65's got this trim...or no trim at all.
-peter
Typical '65 trim
Very rare '65 rocker trim
The yellow car is a Cutlass. That side trim with the "shortened" wheel opening trim was standard on Cutlass and F85 Deluxe models. Note that the only 2dr available as an F85 Deluxe was the V6 Sport Coupe, which was a Cutlass trim package but with the V6 engine.
The red car is a base F85. The rocker trim was available only on the base F85 under RPO Y60. The other thing to note is that the red car does not have the die cast tail panel, which was not used on the base F85 models. Normally there was nothing there, but the Y60 trim package also included the chrome strips between the tail lights that you see on this car.
With approximately 155,000 cars made by Oldsmobile that year - it always amazed me why they are so rare even in Private salvage yards - they certainly were well made the 330 motor never broke hell they could probably run underwater (my uncle ran one through a flooded underpass one day in 64 hood & doors where pretty much just barely out even water was coming into the car - never stopped running) but I digress; bodies were solid - drivetrain was bullet proof - GOD I didn't like that jetaway or slimjim transmission but they were beyond reliable probably gearing helped (but the gearing sucked) lastly rear end was indestructible
SO what I never understood was the scarity of them never made sense + the fact that those parts interchange book are b.s. most if not almost never fit from other years or different make a-bodies
Which also is confusing they should be worth alot more given the scarity of them the cutlass & deluxe models (2dr) are really good looking cars.
Always a puzzlement
Alsmith787
With approximately 155,000 cars made by Oldsmobile that year - it always amazed me why they are so rare even in Private salvage yards -
Because most of them got scrapped and turned into imported cars decades ago. They also rusted into the ground. Look, the reality is that most wrecking yards only keep cars that will be profitable. A 15 year old Camry has a much, MUCH larger potential market than a 55 year old Oldsmobile. In addition, given the small market, people have figured out the it make much more sense to part these cars on ebay or FB marketplace where you can target the specific customers looking for these parts (and charge more as a result).
Joe, can you confirm that the rocker and wheel trim on a 64 was the same as a 65’s with the Y60(as you stated)?
-peter
The wheel opening trim is definitely the same. The 1965 Cutlass and F85 Deluxe wheel opening trim is just shorter, similar to the trim on the 1970-71 Supremes vs other Cutlii those years. I strongly suspect that the rocker trim is also the same, but I haven't been able to confirm that yet.
I know Joe - & I bet if you & I + the motoring world at least the classic car world had our way they would be plentiful - But Reality is a Shame - talked to a group of junkyard owners in the Northeast & total Consensus was "I wish I could do it over again" or "Biggest business mistake of my life" almost all of them said if they had them (instead of the 80's & 90's scrap era because of metal pricing) they'd love to do it over again --- Most said their yards would be close if not over a Million Dollars just in parts selling -- and the Ppl loved these era cars can't tell you how many times I'm flagged down Ppl loving the car & wanting to know the history or just wanting to take a picture of it. These shapes & designs in the 50's 60's & into early 70's were Show Stoppers especially by today's standard designsEnough said by me I'm emotional because all of us look at these cars & we marvel at the simplicity a elegance of designThanks Joe for you input it is appreciated 👍Alsmith787
January 14th, 2022, 08:20 AM
