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Old Jan 26, 2021 | 06:04 PM
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67 C/S Battery

Looking to see what the required battery is for a 67 Cutlass Supreme 330 H.C 4Brl with A/C is.
Service manual has it as a 61 amp hr / 2900 watts required (pg 12-10)
What are your thoughts
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 07:51 PM
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I bought a group 24F, 750cca, Everstart battery from Walmart in 2015. The previous battery lasted 9 years.
Old Jan 26, 2021 | 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by brianbeez67
Looking to see what the required battery is for a 67 Cutlass Supreme 330 H.C 4Brl with A/C is.
Service manual has it as a 61 amp hr / 2900 watts required (pg 12-10)
What are your thoughts

My thought is that you answered your own question
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 05:01 AM
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Yes the numbers are there, but converting them to useable data is tuff, Iget the 750 CCA, but group 24F? Physical size?
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 05:16 AM
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EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size 24F - Walmart.com - Walmart.com
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 05:36 AM
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OK, went to the sight and got the measurements.How did we come up with the 750 for CCA’s?
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 05:41 AM
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OK, went to the sight and got the measurements.How did we come up with the 750 for CCA’s?
It was the largest battery to physically fit in the tray.
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by brianbeez67
Looking to see what the required battery is for a 67 Cutlass Supreme 330 H.C 4Brl with A/C is.
Service manual has it as a 61 amp hr / 2900 watts required (pg 12-10)
What are your thoughts
The original battery was a Delco R59, which is a Group 24 case. Dimensions for a Group 24 are 10.25 L x 6.8125 W x 8.875 H. Note that R59 crosses to a Group 24, not a Group 24F.
I would just get the highest CCA Group 24 that I could afford.
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 08:08 AM
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The only difference between the 24 and the 24f is the polarity.
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 08:14 AM
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The only difference between the 24 and the 24f is the polarity.
Correct, which can prevent the battery cables from reaching.
Old Jan 27, 2021 | 01:37 PM
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Incorrect. Let's be honest here. There is no difference in the "polarity" of these two batteries (Group 24 vs. Group 24F). The ONLY item which is different is the positive and negative terminals are in reversed position. That is NOT a difference in polarity I don't care what the website minions state. The ONLY change is the location of the positive and negative poles - period. That is NOT a difference in polarity.
DAMMIT, Norm, I'M supposed to be the curmudgeon here.
Old Jan 30, 2021 | 12:06 PM
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I'm using a eco34 from O'Reilly's. It's the cheapest battery they offer and only rated 600CCA. I have a high comp 403 and a RobMC ministarter. No issues cranking, but I'm in Texas.
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Speaking of the ole go around Figure this
Purchased a Powerstop 3655 starter, and figured lets do some research and ensure the battery and cables can handle the new starter.
The fella at powerstop was saying I need at least 4 gauge wires (battery pos and neg cables) and the wire down to the starter too he was really taken aback and said that I would melt the harness using the 6 gauge. Previously bought brand new wiring for the whole engine compartment. Called them up and factory specs call for 6 gauge (that’s what’s waiting in the basement to go on). Went on a few auto parts websights and the cables they sell are all 4 gauge.
What the “Blank”. Thinking of just buying a reman at the local joint and see what happens? Really don’t want to cut into a brand new harness, but need to be safe.
Thoughts
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I'm assuming you mean Powermaster 3655. The stock wiring is fine for this starter. Note if you do want to change it, the length of wire that needs to be changed is the cable that runs from the horn relay power stud to the starter lug, the purple wire is does not need changed. The other issue your going to have is that there is no R terminal on the solenoid for the resistance bypass wire that runs to the coil+.
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Thanks for the feedback old cutlass, help me out here. I have the replacement wires from the horn relay to starter in front of me. Balck 6 gauge, purple 10 or 12 gauge and yellow with black stipe 16 gauge (all or about gauge thickness guesses). Not familiar with this resistance bypass wire you had mentioned? And are you saying that the 3655 starter won’t plug and play?
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Old Feb 3, 2021 | 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by brianbeez67
Thanks for the feedback old cutlass, help me out here. I have the replacement wires from the horn relay to starter in front of me. Balck 6 gauge, purple 10 or 12 gauge and yellow with black stipe 16 gauge (all or about gauge thickness guesses). Not familiar with this resistance bypass wire you had mentioned? And are you saying that the 3655 starter won’t plug and play?
Yes the 3655 starter is not plug and play. Read the instructions provided by nicks1966 for your starter in the post below. Note, the yellow/black stripe wire is the resistance bypass wire. There are other ways of doing this besides the diode.

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