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Old Sep 12, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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Clock bulb replacement question...

Greetings to all ye Oldsmobilers!

I need to replace the clock bulb in my '72 Supreme. I was going to fix my clock while I was at it, but after reading various posts here on the site, it seems that removing the clock is a major PIA. So... does the clock need to be removed to replace the bulb, or is there a way to get to the bulb without having to be a contortionist?
Old Sep 12, 2020 | 07:38 PM
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On the 70-72 the clock removal is easy, it comes out through the front. Four screws to remove the gauge bezel then unbolt the clock. 68/69 is a pain because it has to come out the rear, on these cars is easier to change the bulb from the rear then to remove the clock. On your 72 it would be much easier to pull the clock to change the bulb.
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 05:03 AM
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From what I've read in other posts on this, there are nuts on the backside that have to be removed...is that not the case on the '72 s?
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 72455
From what I've read in other posts on this, there are nuts on the backside that have to be removed...is that not the case on the '72 s?
No its not the case. The bulb is pushed into socket that twists into circuit board. Its really easy.
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 05:19 AM
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No its not the case. The bulb is pushed into socket that twists into circuit board. Its really easy.
Oops...I should have been more specific. If I want to remove the clock, are there nuts on the backside that have to be removed?
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 05:35 AM
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Oops...I should have been more specific. If I want to remove the clock, are there nuts on the backside that have to be removed?
There are 2 self tapping screws on the front.
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 05:40 AM
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Remove the bezel from the front of the dash. There are maybe 6-8 screws that hold the bezel in place. Once the bezel if off, there are 4 screws that hold the clock to the dash. Remove those, unplug the connectors, the clock is out. Took longer to describe the process than to actually do it.
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 08:22 AM
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Remove the bezel from the front of the dash. There are maybe 6-8 screws that hold the bezel in place. Once the bezel if off, there are 4 screws that hold the clock to the dash. Remove those, unplug the connectors, the clock is out. Took longer to describe the process than to actually do it.
Got it.. thanks for all the input everyone...now I can proceed with my original plan 😀...tick tock...lol
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 12:43 PM
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Remove the bezel from the front of the dash. There are maybe 6-8 screws that hold the bezel in place.
To expand on this, two screws are visible on the upper part of the bezel and go up into the dash pad. The other screws hold the blue lenses for the dash controls and also anchor the bottom of the bezel.
Old Sep 13, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
To expand on this, two screws are visible on the upper part of the bezel and go up into the dash pad. The other screws hold the blue lenses for the dash controls and also anchor the bottom of the bezel.
​​​​​​Got it.. thanks.
Old Sep 14, 2020 | 02:25 AM
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Is the bulb a 168 or 194?
Old Sep 14, 2020 | 03:54 AM
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Is the bulb a 168 or 194?
I believe they're identical in size/dimensions and therefore interchangeable. The 168 is brighter than the 194.

168 = 0.35 amps; 3 candle power; 1500 hrs longevity
194 = 0.27 amps; 2 candle power; 2500 hrs longevity

http://www.logwell.com/tech/shdwe/indicator_lamps.html
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 09:19 AM
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Forgot to ask...how many bulbs per gauge and the clock?
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 09:45 AM
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Probably 5/gauge plus the clock. You'll know when you pull the gauges.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 09:56 AM
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Dave - To reiterate what has been previously mentioned. Nothing could be easier than replacing these bulbs. Once you remove the screws from the front, you can pull (nestle) out each gauge and visualize each lamp pod. Super simple and easy to get to.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 10:00 AM
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Post #4 from this thread (below). Yours will most likely be identical.

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...lights-148388/
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 72455
Greetings to all ye Oldsmobilers!

I need to replace the clock bulb in my '72 Supreme. I was going to fix my clock while I was at it, but after reading various posts here on the site, it seems that removing the clock is a major PIA. So... does the clock need to be removed to replace the bulb, or is there a way to get to the bulb without having to be a contortionist?
Dave, as others have mentioned getting the clock pod out of a 70-72 Cutlass is actually really easy. Once it's out you can go about the bulb replacement quite easily. BUT if you're planning to do a clock fix (yours is not working?) that's a different story. Most likely the clock points are stuck or might even need to be replaced. To access the working part of the clock, first remove the small screw holding the set **** and remove the **** itself. Now for the tricky part. The clock face is held in place by some bent over tabs around the edge of the clock plastic face. Those need to be pried up enough to allow the lens to be removed. After that it's an easy process to get the clock mechanism out. You can opt for rebuilding the original clock or buying a replacement quartz unit to install in its place. Only differences between OEM and quartz is the quartz will not 'sweep' every second, and it also keeps better time. This is a project for when the car will be parked for awhile.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 11:31 AM
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The dash bezel is only 4 screws not 6 or 8
do you have extra on yours?
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
The dash bezel is only 4 screws not 6 or 8
do you have extra on yours?
I think they're counting the 2 screws needed to remove the dash gage cover, then the 4 on the clock housing.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 11:46 AM
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I think they're counting the 2 screws needed to remove the dash gage cover, then the 4 on the clock housing.

Nope he said 6-8 to remove bezel.
Was just wondering if he had some extra hack work dont on his Car.

Old Sep 15, 2020 | 11:53 AM
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I haven't gotten that far yet...just doing pre planning for when I dive into it. I found a source on the innerweb that sells restored factory clocks for 140 bones, so I'm probably gonna go that route once I get the $. For right now I just need to know how many bulbs total for the speedo, fuel gauge and clock...gonna replace them all once I'm into it.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 01:45 PM
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Those bulbs are used in the side markers as well, so having more than you need for the dash gauges is a good thing.
Old Sep 15, 2020 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 72455
I haven't gotten that far yet...just doing pre planning for when I dive into it. I found a source on the innerweb that sells restored factory clocks for 140 bones, so I'm probably gonna go that route once I get the $. For right now I just need to know how many bulbs total for the speedo, fuel gauge and clock...gonna replace them all once I'm into it.
Rockauto buy a sleeve way cheaper than auto parts store I just bought Wagner 1157 for .19 cents each
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 06:10 AM
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Nope he said 6-8 to remove bezel.
Was just wondering if he had some extra hack work dont on his Car.

I don’t have a 70-72 cutlass, it’s been a while since I messed with one. I thought there were 3 screws above the gauges, and 3 below. I was going by memory. I stand corrected.
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 06:11 AM
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The quartz conversion is pretty cheap and easy to do. I did mine probably 25 years ago and still works perfectly
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by matt69olds
The quartz conversion is pretty cheap and easy to do. I did mine probably 25 years ago and still works perfectly
If I buy the kit, can I do it myself? And how would I know which clock I have? I understand there are two types...Borg and ??? Will it say?
Old Sep 16, 2020 | 06:54 AM
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I don’t have a 70-72 cutlass, it’s been a while since I messed with one. I thought there were 3 screws above the gauges, and 3 below. I was going by memory. I stand corrected.
I did mine recently that’s only how I knew.
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Old Sep 16, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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If I buy the kit, can I do it myself? And how would I know which clock I have? I understand there are two types...Borg and ??? Will it say?

I remember it was very easy. I would do some research on the clock clock conversion, I’m pretty sure it’s easy to identify the clock manufacturer.
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Originally Posted by JOHNNYOLDS442
I did mine recently that’s only how I knew.
all good didn’t mean to affend

none taken.
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Dash Bulb Replacement

Originally Posted by 72455
I haven't gotten that far yet...just doing pre planning for when I dive into it. I found a source on the innerweb that sells restored factory clocks for 140 bones, so I'm probably gonna go that route once I get the $. For right now I just need to know how many bulbs total for the speedo, fuel gauge and clock...gonna replace them all once I'm into it.
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I’m reading this thread 3 years later. I’m in the process of replacing my 1971 Cutlass Supreme bulbs with LED’s. The gauge has either 7 or 8 bulbs depending on whether you have the FASTEN SEAT BELT warning light. If you don’t, there are 7 bulbs. The speedometer has 5, and the clock has 2. I will be purchasing a reconditioned clock with a quartz movement. I’m trying to find out if the clock bulbs can be replaced with LED’s.

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Old Jul 7, 2023 | 02:17 PM
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I think the only way to dim LED bulbs is with a module that converts the variable voltage into a PWM (Pulse Width Modulated) signal. Basically, it controls the brightness of the bulbs by turning it off and on really fast.

I can’t stand driving at night with the dash light full bright. If it doesn’t bother you, go ahead. Just something to possibly consider.
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