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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 12:50 AM
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69 delta 88 custom

I guess I'll try to keep this short and sweet I have an intro thread ill link it here for the small details but I bought a 69 delta 88 and have some decent plans its going to be a daily so nothing to crazy.

I would like to go crazy and put buckets/ racing seats and convert to a 4 speed but the interior is to nice I may just do a quarter stick and call it a day

Number 1 get title.
Number 2 rebuilding front end....... Question would the 69 impala front parts fit on this car I know there both bodies and those have away bigger after market I mean whole front suspension maybe rear end as well because I know it would change the bolt pattern
Number 2.5 wheels/ tires
Number 3 headers full exhaust
Number 4 drive with a smile

Car has
Webber 750
Preformer intake
M/T valve covers
HEI super coil
C cast heads
Crappy exhaust
Not sure if it has a cam or not sounds like it but I'm un sure

Suggestions? Advice?
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 06:20 AM
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Yes, the suspension components of your car are the same as an Impala.

If you are looking for something and it doesn't list it for Delta, then look under Impala.

On the question of headers, remember that they have to wrap properly around the steering box, so choices are limited.

As far as suggestions,
1. '97 or earlier Jeep Grand Cherokee steering box (or a rebuilt to tighter specifications from Lares or Lee) to tighten up the steering feel
2. Polyurethane bushings
3. Bilstein Shocks (not cheap)
4. Front and rear sway bars from a station wagon with a towing package or a police car.

These will tighten it up, but won't make it rough or harsh, and will make it handle much more like a modern car and less like a flag officer's launch.

Don't waste your time and money trying to turn it into a race car, because it isn't possible, and you'll lose all the comfort.

- Eric
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 07:36 AM
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I suppose

I suppose your right it's to big to be a race car I'm just looking to turn it into more of a grand touring car that can turn and stop as well as have more than enough power to have fun with, I'm glad to know the impala parts will work there's all kinds of control arms for them as well as disc brake kits ect,
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 07:52 AM
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1969 OLDS Front End Parts

Whoa, Whoa, Whoa -----------------------
The front End components of a 1969 OLDS FULL SIZE -- DO NOT -- DO NOT -- DO NOT -- fit any full size Chevy Impala.....................
The Upper & Lower Ball Joints are 1965 - 1970 OLDSMOBILE FULL SIZE -- ONLY -- No Chevy, No Buick, No Pontiac, No Caddy....
The Upper & Lower Control Arm Bushings are similarly matched.....
The Inner & Outer Tie Rods are also similarly matched......
The Center Link & Idler Arm are also 1965 - 1968 Olds Full Size (partial0 and 1969 - 1970 Olds Full Size -- all -- only ------ again, no Chevy, no Pontiac, no Bucik, and no Caddy............
The only things that "cross" family lines -- are the tie rod sleeves, the stabilizer links, and sway bar frame bushings....

I have every drop in stock -- including Coil Springs and Shocks -- front & rear -- and all U.S.A. made -- no china junk........

Best to simply call me -- craig -- 516 - 485 - 1935.......

Hey, fella from Maine -- think ya' been hangin' with too many moose......
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 07:59 AM
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Damn I was hoping the control arms would bolt in place I was just going to use all impala aftermarket to rebuild my front end because there's not much out there for the delta
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 08:00 AM
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Really? Wow. I did not know that.

Steering geometry is the same, with that oddly-placed steering box, and I know for certain all '71-up B- and C-bodies are the same, but I never knew there were differences between the earlier full-sizes.

Rear-end suspension components (other than the actual rear ends) are all the same, though, right?

If anyone is aware of the exact differences between these cars, I'd be very interested to know what they are, and what parts can interchange anyway - for instance, are the dimensions of the lower control arm attaching tabs and the locations of the upper control arm shaft attaching bolts the same, or are the frames actually welded up differently?
Do the wheels sit in different places with respect to the frames?

Thanks for the info.

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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 08:42 AM
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1970 & down vs. 1971 & up

A LOT of changes were made in the G M world after every "brand" of cars through 1970 used their own sets of front end parts....

1971 on (other than Caddy) -- Gm Front ends -- Buick, Chevy, Olds, and Pontiac -- all used 1 set of Upper & Lower Ball Joints & 1 set of Upper and Lower Control Arm Bushings for A L L Full Size through 1976.....

The problem then became not enough variety -- and the introduction of the "off brand" secondary market -- which has now led to the overwhelming influx of china and taiwan made (notice: I DO NOT capitalize those countries for a purposeful show of disrespect!!!) parts, which has taken over the world..........

Perhaps we should have thought of this a long time ago, because, sadly, the trend and patterns are IRREVERSABLE.......

On the weekedn we celebrate America, sadly once again, we have made
a LOT of mistakes............

(Mr. Maine -- just having fun with ya' on the "Moose" comment -- I do watch the North woods show on the animal planet!!!!!!!!!!!)
Old Jul 6, 2013 | 08:46 AM
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Ya

What the guy from Maine said

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Old Jul 6, 2013 | 04:29 PM
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So there's no way the control arms will bolt up? Haha
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 07:38 AM
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Does anyone know if there's any modified suspension parts for these cars I mean **** people can auto cross c10's I figure I can atleast make this take a turn with out me thinking I'm gonna die right?
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 10:30 AM
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I figure I can atleast make this take a turn with out me thinking I'm gonna die right?
Those are high aspirations for a 69 Delta 88.

My father (Oldsguy) used to have a 69 Delta 88. We put a manual steering gear box from a late 70s Pontiac Ventura into it. We cut the pitman arm from the Delta and the pitman arm from the Ventura in half and welded the two together so it would work. It definitely cleaned up the engine bay without the power steering pump. Other than that he replaced the front end parts with a kit from Fusicks (stock parts). It was a fun car to drive.

For dual exhaust you are going to have to get one of the reproduction Thornton exhaust manifolds:

http://thorntonmusclecars.com/produc...aust-manifolds

Either that or have custom headers built.
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 12:50 PM
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Well it's already got duals on it, sound ok and doesn't look to great but It has them, I was thinking about buying the cheap flowtech headers for the 455 and just cutting and welding & what not to make them fit.
I plan to keep it power steering for now atleast I'm going to either put in the jeep box or buy a preformance replacement, I'm more so worried about the rest of the suspension and brakes lol needs the entire front end redone with bushings balljoints a and such I figured while I was in there I would try to make it as preformance oriented as possible hence the impala stuff because they have control arm kits for them as well as all other preformance suspension stuff to fix the geometry

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Old Jul 7, 2013 | 01:42 PM
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If you buy headers and try to adapt them get the B/C body headers for 71-76

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/he...model/delta-88

I bought a set of these with the thermal coating for my 71 98. They are excellent quality and fit well. These headers will NOT fit your 69 Delta 88 on the driver's side. They MIGHT fit on the passenger's side. The steering gear box sits farther back on the frame in your car and interferes with the exhaust.

If you already have dual exhaust I would just replace any leaking gaskets and buy some new mufflers. Buying headers that aren't made for your car could be opening Pandora's box.

You can get suspension parts for your car from Kanter or Fusicks; however, these are only stock replacements.

http://www.kanter.com/

http://www.fusick.com/
Old Jul 7, 2013 | 08:53 PM
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Might want to check with Performance Suspension Technology
http://www.p-s-t.com they have polygrahite bushings, sway bars, springs, suspension parts, etc. for the Delta.
Old Jul 8, 2013 | 12:35 PM
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I bought suspension parts from PST for my 64 98 many years ago. I wasn't impressed with the customer service or the product. The price was ok though.
Old Jul 9, 2013 | 08:13 AM
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Really? Wow. I did not know that.
He Chebbies used smaller brakes, smaller ball joints, and the 5 x 4.75" wheel bolt pattern.
Old Jul 10, 2013 | 10:50 AM
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Each GM division pretty much had their own suspension/steering/brakes setup on their full-size (B/C) cars prior to corporate standardization in '71.

A-bodies became (mostly) standardized in '64.
Old Jul 10, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Well thank you all for the information no the suspension stuff I was dreaming I suppose thinking the impala stuff would fit but it sure would have been nice a good handling suspension and a more common wheel pattern,

As of right now no new updates on the title situation = no work on the car

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