Hello gents

Am new to these forums and to have recently purchased a 67 Olds Delta 88. The car is in great shape for its age was bought from an 89 year old WW2 vet who just couldn't safely drive anymore.

The old guy looked after the car well.

I have a buzzilion questions of course but was hoping you guys could answer a couple of quick ones...

Can anyone tell me what trim code 365 is?

Did these cars come with sideview mirrors? (mine has some aftermarket ones that get in the way of the small windows)

The old guy had the vinyl top replaced and the car completely repainted within the last 10 years. The top is in great shape except for some hard bumps under it. Is it worthwhile to replace the top or should I look at removing the vinyl and going with paint?

The car has the climate combustion control feature. I was thinking about droppping on a 4 barrel and dual exhaust but am not sure if this is worth it (the old stock vs performance debate)

Thanks for any help!

 

WOW Beautiful car. Very jealous

 

Beautiful car, but damn, that looks familiar!
Take a look at my CarDomain site: http://www.cardomain.com/ride/209009...ile-delmont-88

The hard bumps under the vinyl top are likely rust scale. My 442 had a lot of that around the top seams. When the vinyl was removed and the rust cleaned off, there were lots of deep pits in the roof skin and even some pinholes. It had to be repaired before a new vinyl top covering went on.

Is your 425 a 2-bbl carb? That K50 (CCC) setup is quite rare and hard to find all complete. If you change anything, be sure to save ALL the parts.

 

Oh yeah, the car would have come with a single (LH) chrome manual rearview mirror standard. A remote controlled LH outside mirror was optional. The right side mirror was available only as a dealer-installed accesory or over the parts counter.

The LH manual mirrors are reproduced and available through Fusick and others.

 

Handsome beast.

In 1967, 365 is red vinyl bench seat interior for Delta 88 Holiday Coupe and Sedan, which you have. It also appears complete right down to the color-keyed window crank *****.

Where are the bumps under the top? That generally means there's a rust bubble under it and they're usually found at top of the windshield or around the rear window. It's not the end of the world and it's unfortunately very common under a vinyl roof.

These cars came with driver side outside mirror standard. My guess is the original was either pitted or very loose and the owner put those parts-store specials on when the car was painted. It may be difficult to install a correct mirror and cover the screw holes. www.fusick.com and I think they repro the correct 67 big car mirror.

I'm also guessing whoever painted the car installed the mirrors and never stopped to consider interference with the vent windows. I've found that painters and body men always leave their stamp somewhere, and that's why I remove and install all trim myself.

The Climatic Combustion Control system was available with either 2 or 4 barrel engines, but as expected the aircleaner bases are different. The system is uncommon and unique enough that I'd be inclined to let it alone. Besides, even with a 2-barrel that 425 is pumping out close to 300 horsepower.

2 barrel cars could also have dual exhaust. To convert it correctly you need the S casting LH exhaust manifold so it will clear the steering gear. It's available reproduction thru Thornton Reproductions. Car that nice, do the job right instead of half-assing a dual exhaust using the existing center-dump LH manifold.

 

Thanks for the great info. I flipped around the side views so I wouldn't have to mess with paint/holes etc. Actually looks not too bad I think and also clears the windows now. A couple of more pics...gotta love the old guys...sold with tire chains and original manuals!

 

Mine has the two barrel. The CCC set-up is not stamped on the cowl tag so not sure when it was added. The car came out of California in the 80s or 90s and went to Calgary. I wonder if the guy had it installed to deal with the prarie winters.

Looks almost like a twin but I see you have the under dash 8 track and rear speaker...I am officially jealous

 

Wow, really nice!!!

 

No need to be jealous - your car is much nicer than mine was when I got it. The 8-track is an aftermarket Pioneer Supertuner that was originally installed in a 1980 Buick LeSabre I bought new. I took it out and saved it when I sold that car. Found it in my garage many years later and thought it looked "right" for this car My original front seat (which I have stored away) is identical to yours. In fact, the whole interior is the same except for the woodgrain on the dash.

By the way, I doubt the cowl tag would show a code for the K50 option. The cowl tag only shows options which would affect Fisher body operations, not chassis/mechanical stuff. With your CCC system being complete and functional, I'd bet it was factory-installed. Any chance you have a window sticker or broadcast sheet?


Good to know my car has a big brother

 

Regrettably, there is no broadcast sheet but do you know if you can get them ordered based on VIN? If I remember right, there is a Ford site where you can order them for Fords

I have leak at the driver side exhaust mainfold (near the front). I think this may have contributed to the PS leak at the junction as it blows right on it. As such, I think I'll order up a new S maniford and rig it for dual exhaust if I am going to need to take it off anyways.



Thanks again

 

Well took a look at the usual places and here is what I found...

http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/s...dcastsheet.jpg

89

1065 R2

35887 365

365

35887

A39, C60, U27

JJ.QJ (I assume these werer the guys that assembles or were quality control)

 

If it was a Canadian car GM Canada could have given you a lot of info about the car.

 

I know the R2 is the paint code, Spanish red w/ black (vinyl) top
35887 is a Delta 88 holiday coupe
365 is the red vinyl interior
A39 is deluxe seat belts F&R
C60 is manual air conditioner
U27 I think may be an interior lighting package
JJ, QJ - not sure on those

Kurt can probably tell you anything I missed.

To use the CCC with a 4bbl carb swap, you'll need a 4bbl CCC air cleaner base. The whole CCC air cleaner assemblies show up on eBay occasionally, but they're not exactly common. It might take a while to find one. I like the idea of the dual exh. conversion, but I'd be reluctant to mess with the carb and intake if the engine runns well now. Just my opinion.

 

I have never seen or heard of the CCC system. What is the benefit to it?

 

Cold starting and fuel economy is memory serves.

 

That big aircleaner accomplished the same thing later cars did by just using a heat tube from the exhaust manifold to the aircleaner snout. But hey, it looked impressive, and "Climatic Combustion Control" sounded space-age and razzamatazz.

The idea was to supply heated air to the engine on a cold start so it would warm up quicker and come off-choke earlier, thereby reducing cold start emissions. On cold start, a sensor in the aircleaner closed off a diverter flap in the snout to allow heated air from a "stove" on the exhaust manifold to enter the carb. As the engine warmed up, the sensor allowed the diverter flap to open and allow cold air to the engine for normal operation. It would also close or modulate the diverter flap in cold ambient temperatures which helped with carburetor icing problems.

The big rubber hose near the blower motor is the hot air tube on the CCC system. There are four, possibly six different variations on the CCC aircleaner housing depending on carburetor, carline and CA or 49-state emissions, so if you go hunting for one, you need to know what it came from.