Will it fit?

Old Feb 3, 2014 | 07:27 PM
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Will it fit?

I have a 1970 Cutlass Supreme with the 12 bolt "O" rear end. I just bought a complete complete 1974 442 car that Im probably going to part out. My question is will the 442 rear from the 1974 bolt right in where my 12 bolt resides now?
Old Feb 3, 2014 | 07:59 PM
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"Will it fit?"

That's what she said!
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:05 AM
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Fyi

Originally Posted by ERIC27
I have a 1970 Cutlass Supreme with the 12 bolt "O" rear end. I just bought a complete complete 1974 442 car that Im probably going to part out. My question is will the 442 rear from the 1974 bolt right in where my 12 bolt resides now?
No. It won't.
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:06 AM
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No. It won't.
THAT's what she said.

- Eric
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ERIC27
I have a 1970 Cutlass Supreme with the 12 bolt "O" rear end. I just bought a complete complete 1974 442 car that Im probably going to part out. My question is will the 442 rear from the 1974 bolt right in where my 12 bolt resides now?
The 1973-77 cars have a wider track width (and thus a wider axle) than the 68-72 cars.
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 02:32 PM
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The mounting points are also different.
Old Feb 4, 2014 | 04:12 PM
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The width difference is minimal. 55" between the backing plates on the o type, vs 55.5" between the backing plates on the 74.

Your problem is the shock mounts, and upper ears as 507OLDS said.
o type the shocks mount rear of the axle, and 74 mount in the front.

The upper ears on the o type are on a 45? degree angle, and the 74 is more like a 30 degree angle. It'll bind like crazy.
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 11:23 AM
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The upper ears on the o type are on a 45? degree angle, and the 74 is more like a 30 degree angle. It'll bind like crazy.
The mismatch is such that you cannot install the rear into the control arm mounts.

Back in the 80s I tried installing a '75 rear into my '70 Cutlass and almost killed myself. I was using a bottle jack to lift the rear into the mounts and it wouldn't go. Kept lifting with the jack to force it in, ended up lifting the entire car off the jack stands; car slipped sideways and fell off the jack stands while I was still under it. Luckily, the lower rocker lip on the side I was on caught the cradle of the jack stand and kept the car from crushing me. Had to manipulate the bottle jack to lift the car off myself while I was pinned under the car. I remember that day very vividly.

The moral of my long winded story is: Don't try to put a 73-77 Cutlass rear under a 68-72 Cutlass - it will not fit.
Old Feb 5, 2014 | 07:38 PM
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I appreciate the info guys. That being said, what 10 bolt differential can I install that has the 8.5 gear?
Old Feb 6, 2014 | 07:31 AM
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I appreciate the info guys. That being said, what 10 bolt differential can I install that has the 8.5 gear?

Any 1971-72 GM A body rear end will bolt in. All will require a change in driveshaft. The 71-72 Olds & Buick have bolt in axles. The Chevy same year uses C clips. The Pontiac is an 8.2".
Old Dec 5, 2014 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
The mismatch is such that you cannot install the rear into the control arm mounts.

Back in the 80s I tried installing a '75 rear into my '70 Cutlass and almost killed myself. I was using a bottle jack to lift the rear into the mounts and it wouldn't go. Kept lifting with the jack to force it in, ended up lifting the entire car off the jack stands; car slipped sideways and fell off the jack stands while I was still under it. Luckily, the lower rocker lip on the side I was on caught the cradle of the jack stand and kept the car from crushing me. Had to manipulate the bottle jack to lift the car off myself while I was pinned under the car. I remember that day very vividly.

The moral of my long winded story is: Don't try to put a 73-77 Cutlass rear under a 68-72 Cutlass - it will not fit.
I just ran across this doing some research. That's a terrifying story! And I'll bet not a mistake you'll make twice
Old Dec 6, 2014 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fun71
The mismatch is such that you cannot install the rear into the control arm mounts.

Back in the 80s I tried installing a '75 rear into my '70 Cutlass and almost killed myself. I was using a bottle jack to lift the rear into the mounts and it wouldn't go. Kept lifting with the jack to force it in, ended up lifting the entire car off the jack stands; car slipped sideways and fell off the jack stands while I was still under it. Luckily, the lower rocker lip on the side I was on caught the cradle of the jack stand and kept the car from crushing me. Had to manipulate the bottle jack to lift the car off myself while I was pinned under the car. I remember that day very vividly.

The moral of my long winded story is: Don't try to put a 73-77 Cutlass rear under a 68-72 Cutlass - it will not fit.
WOW, thanks for sharing that story. In my opinion that would be the ultimate terror!!
Old Dec 6, 2014 | 11:56 PM
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12 BOLT o 8.5

jUST BUILD THE 8.5 oLDS IT WILL PLENTY STRONG AND WILL DO THE JOB excellently Plus you have the housing and it fits the car.

sorry about the caps on the first 1/2

Jim
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