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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 12:52 PM
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'68 442 Convertible Rear Dif

Hey Olds masters,

I have this type "O" rear differential currently. I don't know gearing, but it is an open dif.. After getting it all clean and shiny, the shaft seal is leaking. I don't mind fixing, but I am wondering if anyone has thoughts on donor cars with GM rear difs with a posi and cruising gears?
I would like to stay in the 1968-72 range.
I would like a posi type.
I will mainly be cruising and "occasionally" melting rubber.
Any advice on gear kits with posi that might bolt up right for the current setup instead a whole new rear axle assembly?
1968 Oldsmobile 442 Convertible with 455 and TH375.




Old Jan 17, 2023 | 02:34 PM
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Old Jan 17, 2023 | 03:41 PM
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Yeah, that new Yukon posi is 3/4 the price of that rebuilt Type O, trust me🤑🤑🤑. I am doing that exact set up this Summer to replace my 2.78 open, just need the bearings and seals.
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 03:51 PM
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Some Cutlasses that were built in Canada came with the Chevy 12 bolt rearend , you can get every thing you need to build the 12 bolt Chevy that you have from the after market vendors ,
Old Jan 17, 2023 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigs Fly Garage
I have this type "O" rear differential currently.
No, you don't. The O-Type has a 12 bolt cover, which is not what your picture shows. That is obviously a 10 bolt rearend, maybe a 71-72 8.5" 10 bolt or maybe an 8.2" 10 bolt. Need some views of the side of the center section and/or casting numbers for better identification.

Both of the above 10 bolt rears have a lot of aftermarket parts available; you just need to determine exactly which one it is.

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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 12:12 PM
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Name that rear end

Originally Posted by Fun71
No, you don't. The O-Type has a 12 bolt cover, which is not what your picture shows. That is obviously a 10 bolt rearend, maybe a 71-72 8.5" 10 bolt or maybe an 8.2" 10 bolt. Need some views of the side of the center section and/or casting numbers for better identification.

Both of the above 10 bolt rears have a lot of aftermarket parts available; you just need to determine exactly which one it is.
Appreciate the info. Here is what I have found:
Axle tube is stamped "CB" "226W"
My conclusion...from the manual:
Likely geared 3.36
Made Feb 26 in Warren, MI

I am guessing an 8.5? I need to replace the pinuon shaft seal and need to determine which seal to purchase. Does it matter which type housing 8.2 or 8.5, or are all pinion shaft seals the same flavor?

Any help is appreciated.
Old Jan 25, 2023 | 12:44 PM
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Look for casting numbers on the center section - those will identify what it is.

Here's a picture I found on the web showing one possible casting number location:

https://www.chevydiy.com/history-and...differentials/


The placement of the casting numbers on an 8.2-inch 10-bolt varies
by year and model. When you decode these numbers you can
conclusively identify your axle.
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Old Jan 25, 2023 | 01:51 PM
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What the what?

So,
Type "o" cover. Type "o" parallel vanes on the side of housing. "CB" stamped on the axle tube.
I have no cast "lugs" on the housing at 5 and 7.

I am pretty certain I have an 8.2 w/ 3.36:1 gears made in Warren, MI.

Have I named that rear end?

I WAS HOPING FOR AN 8.5 I COULD BUILD! Oh well, what's another 2k?

Seems like I'll grab an 8.5 from a parts donor location. Keeping my eye out for a 12 bolt posi...hahaha.

Appreciate the help holding my hand through this identification process. You all are awesome.


Old Jan 25, 2023 | 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pigs Fly Garage
So,
Type "o" cover.
Sorry if I'm confused, but are you talking about the axle in your first photo? That's clearly not a "Type O cover", since it has the inverted "V" notch and only ten bolts.
Old Jan 25, 2023 | 02:00 PM
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Damn old eyes

Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Sorry if I'm confused, but are you talking about the axle in your first photo? That's clearly not a "Type O cover", since it has the inverted "V" notch and only ten bolts.
You are clearly correct. Thank you for clarifying. My apologies.
Old Jan 26, 2023 | 03:48 PM
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Translation verification?


GM51 w/ a smaller "O" stamped above the GM51
Old Jan 26, 2023 | 03:55 PM
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It's still a Chevy 8.2" ten bolt axle from a Chevelle. It wasn't born under that car.




Old Jan 26, 2023 | 03:59 PM
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Appreciate ya.

Really appreciate the help.
Old Jan 26, 2023 | 04:07 PM
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Pretty sure you have a GM/Chevy 8.2
Old Jan 26, 2023 | 04:12 PM
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Its so crazy how sometimes I sometimes am convinced something is this or that, and the real answer is literally RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE!
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 04:37 AM
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If you have an Oshawa built car it's probably the original rear. Why not just put a posi in it? I would think there are more options for that rear than a type O. I have a 3.42 with an M20 and I think it's a good match. I don't know anything about automatics though
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 04:55 AM
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Originally Posted by allyolds68
If you have an Oshawa built car it's probably the original rear.
Sorry, no. Oshawa cars got the Chevy TWELVE bolt axle with the 8.875" ring gear, not the 8.2" ten bolt.
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 05:30 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Sorry, no. Oshawa cars got the Chevy TWELVE bolt axle with the 8.875" ring gear, not the 8.2" ten bolt.
Got it. Thanks

A quick google search implies (because I admittingly don't know) that an 8.2 posi is fairly easy to obtain and most people will never need the strength of a 8.5 or 8.875 for their daily driver
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 07:44 AM
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To clarify, Canadian (Oshawa) built cars came with the Chevy 12-bolt in '68-9. US cars got the Type O. Available ratios differed between the two; my understanding is that the 12-bolts were commonly equipped with a 3.07 and the O's with a 2.73 or 3.08. In either case Posi (Anti-Spin) was optional.
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 07:47 AM
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Originally Posted by BangScreech4-4-2
To clarify, Canadian (Oshawa) built cars came with the Chevy 12-bolt in '68-9. US cars got the Type O. Available ratios differed between the two; my understanding is that the 12-bolts were commonly equipped with a 3.07 and the O's with a 2.73 or 3.08. In either case Posi (Anti-Spin) was optional.
The standard and available axle ratios are listed in the SPECS booklets and differed between the two axle types. In any case, this is not relevant to the OP's non-original Chevy 10-bolt that is the subject of this thread.
Old Jan 27, 2023 | 09:00 AM
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FYI - How to Rebuild Chevy/GM Differentials 10 and 12 Bolt

It's also available on Hoopla. Depending on your local library system, you can sometimes get free access to Hoopla through your library account.



Old Jan 27, 2023 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
In any case, this is not relevant to the OP's non-original Chevy 10-bolt that is the subject of this thread.
Comes under the heading of info that might be useful if OP is still up in the air about replacing his current unit, as he appears to be. Good referral to the Specs book!
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