squirell

Guys and Gals,
New to this forum ,but not to the oldcar/musclecar scene.
My nameis Matt from Queens N.Y
I own a 70 Chevelle LS-6 with 39,000 orig miles family owned since 1974.
I just picked up a 67 Cutlass S conv from Mass on Friday,
32,000 orig miles with documentation,
330 super high comp 4bbl
2 sp
12 bolt
Power windows,Power top,P/S,P/B
Orig paint,top headlights,spare,mats EVERYTHING !
It can be used as a reference car for you guys.
I also found some factory markings on the firewall and inside the hood
I will share with you guys when
I am allow to post pictures .
The car is an absolute virgin in storage since 1978.
Got her running 24 hrs after getting her home for the first time in 31 years.
It's amazing,how smooth it idles after all that time
I was wondering if someone could decode the data plate for me.

110 S
ST 67-33867 LAN 2401 BODY
TR 984-C S-2 PAINT
EX

Glad to be here.
Thanks in advance,
Matt

gearheads78

Cleaned it up for you......Welcome to the site. Enjoy your stay. Post pics as soon as you get a chance.

csstrux

Congratts on the find, and welcome. looking forward to pics.

citcapp

Welcome, can't wait to see the pictures. Some will help you with the decode of the data plate soon

squirell

Pics

squirell

Some pics

67 Cutlass

Very Nice! Welcome to the site.
Keep us up to date on your plans with it.

squirell

Paperwork.
Note service indicates the 1 years mileage at 3137.
Car last registered 1978

squirell

High tech stereo just some of the period goodies that came with the car,
along with realistic 6x9 coaxles, kraco 20oz speakers,JC witney mudflaps,spoked hubcaps and screw in reflectors
..all brand new in the boxes...going on e-bay soon
Thank God he didn't install any of this.

wmachine

That is one clean barn find! Nice car, great shape, great documentation!
110 That's 11D built 4th week of Nov, '66.
ST 67-33867 1967 Cutlass Supreme Convertible
LAN 2401 Lansing body sequence number
TR 984-C Parchment (white) bench seat
S-2 Champaign body, Black top
E Tinted windows
X Power Windows

squirell

firewall and under hood lip markings,parade boot for top down (never used), USA !!!!!!!

squirell

Thanx Kurt !

squirell

My orig plan (Please don't Flame me)
was to drop in a 468 Big Block Chevy on spray and Super T-10
I pulled out of my 55 Chevy.
I was just going to paint it and keep it stock looking except for
widened stock rims in the back,dog dishes and big meats (sleeper)

I bought the car assuming it wouldn't run.
Now that it purrs like a kitten I really don't want to
pop this virgins cherry.

If I can get the paint to be presentable I am going to put on some dog dish hubcaps and just enjoy it as a surviver
(anybody selling hubcaps ?)

gearheads78

Sounds like a twin to what I started with. Had original plans to mini tub with 345s but did not have the heart to cut it up. I did cut my floor for transmission clearance though.

wmachine

Yes, it would be a shame to modify any car that is that original, as in good a condition, and with complete documentation. There are plenty of cars (Olds inclusive) that are better suited for modification.
This car beggs to be kept as original as possible! I'm pleased to see that makes an impression with you!

Oldsguy

Whew! dodged the bowtie bullet on that one. Glad you are keeping it all Olds and original. Welcome to CO.

squirell

Dan,
I will drive it and enjoy it...for now,
I still want a 2nd hot rod so I don't have to drive the Chevelle so much.
It's just worth too much for me to beat on it.
That is the whole reason I bought this car.
I had a Blue 67 Cutlass conv with a 454 back in the early 80's.
And a 67 442 Gold w/Black hardtop..
this is like a combo of my two childhood cars

Here is a pic of the 39,000 mile all orig LS-6 car
I know this is a diehard Olds crowd,
(again PLEASE don't flame me,I mean no disrespect)
but I'm sure most of you can appreciate this car too,
as I appreciate all Musclecars.


Rich ,
I didn't want to tub the car ,just fill out the wheelwells.
It looks as if a 9 or 10" custom rim will fit with the right offset.
Has anyone done this ?
What Trans are you running ?

squirell

WOW Rich,
That's some beautiful Car you got there.
Unreal amount of craftmanship when into that I see.
Your story said you where orig going to do steallies on the back,
Do you care to share the wheel specs ?

gearheads78

You can see the long version in the link below but trans is a TKO600 5 speed and wheels are 18 x 10 rear and 18 x 9 front. If I did it again front would be 8.5" On a super hard lock to lock turn the inner wheel touches the control arm. If you don't plan to go low there is a lot of backspace range you can get away with. If you want a super low car like me. You better measure 3 times and order once. With a 285-40-18 rear tire if I was off even a 1/4" in the rear I would rub.

squirell

So Rich,

1 ) If I wanted to go stock ride height,wide in rear only,
What offset would you reccomend for SAFELY (no rubbing) the widest tire ?


2) Who do you reccomend I start buying parts from.
Right now I need a new water pump,some T-3 lights,hoses,
stock clamps and springs ?

3) I want to go with a 6 blade clutch fan
while I'm doing the water pump,
OPG has pt #ch25854 (fan) and #fc48 (clutch short) OR
fc57 (clutch long)
is it a direct fit ?
Do I get long or short ?

Thanx,
Matt

P.S. I looked at the long version...UNREAL !!!!!!!!

derek nesdoly

Matt.....it's not amazing that it started up and idled smooth after 31 years ....it's an OLDS ,not a Chevy!!! Seriously,welcome on board,and I look forward to more pics and resto updates.The guys here will rib you about the Chebby,but give you great pointers on the way to bringing back that classic Olds. Good luck.............Derek

squirell

LMAO.
Thank you Derek

gearheads78

I'm still learning olds specific stuff so I will let another expert answer the water pump stuff. Beautiful 70 you have. I have been a Chevelle long before the Olds was in my possesion.

My BS on the rear is 6.625" but a stock height car I bet 5-5.5" range with a 10" wheel and 275-60-15 would work out nice. Just measure to be sure.

Others might disagree on OPG but my best luck has been with OPG and Fusicks for my restoration parts. I've dabbled with a little of all of them. I won't buy from Parts Place again. I don't have time to keep sending wrong parts back.

squirell

Thank you for the 411

kcars

Squirell: Please keep this car original !. At car shows the biggest hits are the 100% unrestored original cars. Its rare to find a car like yours that has not been messed with and can still be driven. I always remember a Corvette show in Bowling Green Ky at the Corvette meuseum- the car most people were looking at was worn out barn find original '58 F.I. Corvette. It was parked next to the $100,000.00 Vettes but guess which one the crowd liked. Wish I had your Cutlass.

squirell

I'm gonna drive it as is and see how much fun I have,
and the feedback I get.

Wireman134

Squirell, this car was originally purchased in my back yard. How did you come upon it, if I may ask. Doesn't look like it stayed in the Chicago area for to long. Craigslist, Ebay, what ya give for it. Nice ride!

squirell

My buddy Mike found it on Craigs list,with no picture or phone #.
I assume that's why nobody snatched it up before me.
I usually don't bother if there's no picture,
but the description (milage) was too good not to e-mail.
The guy said some locals looked at the car,but being that the engine was "apart" they wern't interested.

The Story is the guy I bought it from got the car in 1978
from the orig elderly owners.
He took the carb and hoses off to paint the block,he was in his mid 30's at the time.
He ordered all kinds of J.C Whitney crap and was going to "show" the car.
Soon after buying the car he moved to Mass from Ill and had the car shipped.The car was indoors all this time.

POOF... 31 yrs later ,he's 65 years old and never touched the car,
and figures he never will.
The Ill Plates from 1978 are still on the car.

Let's just say I bought the car right assuming the car wouldn't run,
and would probably need paint too.
We didn't even discover the paperwork until we got home.
I never looked in the glove box until we got home.
I still hope to find the build sheet under the back seat or in the
D.S door panel.
I already know it's not in the PS door cause I had it off to
pop the big dent out.

I am going to start cleaning it up tommorow (paint and interior)
and will post pics on the progress

64Rocket

I have run across a few people wanting to put a chebby in an OLDS. I tell them that is the cheap way out, anybody can do that , I say you can get everything you need at "Wall Mart" and they get the undies in a twist. I talk to this one guy about a grill for my Cutlass and he told me he had a '68 442 convert and was going to put a 454 in it. I told him what I thought and he said it was still "GM".
So a little later in the conversation I said I know of a '63 split window vette with no engine and trans, he said what a find how is the condition. I told him it was great, just been in the garage for a number of years. I'm going to put a 455 OLDS and 3 speed trans. He just about blew a cork, it was great, I laugh all the way home.

Gene

squirell

LOL,
That's funny.
I'll take some picks of my buddys 67 chevelle SS 396, all orig paint,4 sp
with a 455 PONT Tri-power.
Car has been that way since 1973.
I acually think it's pretty cool.
People freak when he pops the hood.

The only reason I was contemplating this was because My engine and trans are brand new and just laying around.

Just courious,
Would you guys dislike it if I took this SURVIVOR and swapped out a 455 olds, 4 speed on juice ?

Like I said before,the car is such a virgin and even a referance car...I may not mess with it at all.
I don't think I even want to "detail" (paint and plate) the engine compartment.
Which is a total 180 from my orig plan.

It's not that I'm "Mr Chevy",
My goal was to build a quick conv cruiser and THAT just happens to be the drivetrain I have.

squirell

Got the to to work,put in a liitle hydrolic jack oil..What do you guys use in your conv motors ???

Some pictures of interior and chrome cleaned up.
I scubbed the mats,but are totally disclored.
Was a females car for sure,because there are heel marks in both front mats.

64Rocket

That car is so clean, it would be a shame to tear it up. You should find an old beater chevy and put your drive train in it. The vert is a great cruiser and chick magnet. With the beater you can beat on it and not have a worry.

Gene