I love her. But what is she?
#1
I love her. But what is she?
Hi guys! I recently got a car but am unsure of what year it is or what package she has. It is a long story but I have what I think is a 1973 Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme. However I am unsure. But here are the facts:
Has a 455 Engine
Says Cutlass on the glove compartment
Has the "S" emblem by the doors
Here are some photos of her. If you could tell me what year and what type I would greatly appreciate it. I would have tried through a VN number but when we were transferring the title, the state did not have it on the books. We had to get a new one.
Has a 455 Engine
Says Cutlass on the glove compartment
Has the "S" emblem by the doors
Here are some photos of her. If you could tell me what year and what type I would greatly appreciate it. I would have tried through a VN number but when we were transferring the title, the state did not have it on the books. We had to get a new one.
#3
Thanks a lot!!! I am trying to take it to a dealership to find out about that. However, do you know where I could find a passenger window for one? Mine is broken and it has been a pain to find one.
#4
#6
You can try the following website for parts. They make nearly everything for those cars.
http://www.yearone.com/
http://www.yearone.com/
#7
Yea if there is NO vin number, that sounds scary..... kinda stolen scary. I have never heard of getting a new vin from any department of motor vehicles. I must be getting old
I actually have the door glass window for that car, but I sure don't know how to ship it without breakage. If you want to talk privatly, send me a pm, as I do go to TX once a year but just north of DFW.
Nice car BTW, sure looks like 70 cutlass S, definately not a supreme.
#8
Actually, some states WILL issue state VINs and VIN tags. This is more usually done with constructed cars such as kit cars. Stolen and recovered cars with tampered or damaged VIN tags may also get state-issued VIN tags with state-unique numbers. It depends on the state in question and can vary from state to state. Check with your local DMV or State Police for more info. At a minimum, this should be a flag to do much more checking.
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#10
The VIN you provided indicates a 1972 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 4bbl.(180 HP) made in Farmington, Mass. (The "S" after the "J" in the VIN is in fact a "5". J57 is the code for Cutlass Supreme 2 door hardtop, but your car is NOT. This VIN does not go with this car. As to what year you DO have, post a picture of the tail lights. This will identify the year, if the rear bumper and lights are original, which might be called into question as well in view of the foregoing. Sounds like this ride has a colorful history! Chumley
#11
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These are the exact tail lights that my car has. I did not take a photo of the back of my car. Does this help?
The VIN you provided indicates a 1972 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 4bbl.(180 HP) made in Farmington, Mass. (The "S" after the "J" in the VIN is in fact a "5". J57 is the code for Cutlass Supreme 2 door hardtop, but your car is NOT. This VIN does not go with this car. As to what year you DO have, post a picture of the tail lights. This will identify the year, if the rear bumper and lights are original, which might be called into question as well in view of the foregoing. Sounds like this ride has a colorful history! Chumley
#12
The VIN you provided indicates a 1972 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 4bbl.(180 HP) made in Farmington, Mass. (The "S" after the "J" in the VIN is in fact a "5". J57 is the code for Cutlass Supreme 2 door hardtop, but your car is NOT. This VIN does not go with this car. As to what year you DO have, post a picture of the tail lights. This will identify the year, if the rear bumper and lights are original, which might be called into question as well in view of the foregoing. Sounds like this ride has a colorful history! Chumley
#13
Those tail lights are 1970. If the big block is original to the car, you might have a 442. What kind of tranny do you have? What I meant by a "colorful" history is that there is a reason the original VIN tag is missing and one from a '72 put in it's place. Maybe the car was indeed stolen at some time, especially if it is a 442. Some clues to look for in a 442: Does the rear bumper have the exhaust cutouts? Front and rear sway bars with boxed lower rear control arms. 442 badges(which are probably missing at this point) Internally regulated alternator (no voltage regulator on firewall). It's cool you have a big block at any rate. What are the numbers you got off the block and heads? We can interpret those as well. Chumley
#14
The VIN you provided indicates a 1972 Cutlass Supreme with a 350 4bbl.(180 HP) made in Farmington, Mass. (The "S" after the "J" in the VIN is in fact a "5". J57 is the code for Cutlass Supreme 2 door hardtop, but your car is NOT. This VIN does not go with this car. As to what year you DO have, post a picture of the tail lights. This will identify the year, if the rear bumper and lights are original, which might be called into question as well in view of the foregoing. Sounds like this ride has a colorful history! Chumley
#15
Those tail lights are 1970. If the big block is original to the car, you might have a 442. What kind of tranny do you have? What I meant by a "colorful" history is that there is a reason the original VIN tag is missing and one from a '72 put in it's place. Maybe the car was indeed stolen at some time, especially if it is a 442. Some clues to look for in a 442: Does the rear bumper have the exhaust cutouts? Front and rear sway bars with boxed lower rear control arms. 442 badges(which are probably missing at this point) Internally regulated alternator (no voltage regulator on firewall). It's cool you have a big block at any rate. What are the numbers you got off the block and heads? We can interpret those as well. Chumley
#18
Everything can be replaced, fenders, bumpers, glove box door, etc. This could explain the curiosity of this car and the confusion. The only thing that is supposed to NOT be replaced is the VIN tag, it is supposed to stay on the car (of course). Interesting story here, I am curious to see what unfolds. As a side note, I saw an ebay auction for a '69 pontiac that described the car as a project with a lot of rust, what was it? A firewall, A pillars, dash and part of the frame of a a '69 firebird. Wonder what they were selling?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1969-...QQcmdZViewItem
Last edited by Oldsguy; January 22nd, 2008 at 05:21 AM.
#19
You can try the following website for parts. They make nearly everything for those cars.
http://www.yearone.com/
http://www.yearone.com/
As long its after 1963 (for F85's anyway). Same with other parts places.
Is it the same with the other two BOP cars for the early 60's? Corvairs
seem to rate ???
#21
It's all about popularity, since the vendors are in business to make a profit. You'll note there aren't may repro parts for the 73-77 cars, but the more popular G-body cars have more aftermarket parts available.
#22
I have an interesting fact. The engine seemed to have caught on fire at one point. I had this yellow film on the block as well as spots of the same substance on the bottom of the hood. My mechanic told me that it was the same chemical used for fire extinguishers. Luckily most of the parts were replaced so when I got the engine I just had to bring then engine up-to-date with a new electric job as well as fix other things. Luckily most of the work has been small.
However, I have yet to figure out the back suspension. I noticed that I have an air intake valve similar to that found on tires however I am unsure of any difference when I put air into it. I don't know how to check that. Also, I found out recently that my back tires are too big. The body keeps rubbing up against them. Does anyone know what type of tires I should have for this vehicle?
#25
That "air valve" sounds like the air input for air shocks. Is it located behind the license plate? ( factory location). It's common to put 455's in a car that came stock with a 350. Did you get numbers from the heads to ID the year of it? The 455 is an awesome motor. Used to have one in my SX. Also put a shift kit in the TH400. Could always grab 2nd and sometimes 3rd with a mostly stock motor. Ah, the good old days......Chumley
#26
Yeah that "Tire vavle" sounds like the vavle for a set of air shocks, look for a hose or pipe runnig from the valve to your shocks, my friends polara has them ran along the frame... I have only seen my friends, but I thought that kind of thing needs a pretty strong compressor to pump them to proper PSI... also, could it be possible the air shocks are just really low on air (or leaky completely) and thats why the tire is rubbing?
#27
So I had my dad read the body plate for me. Here is what it states:
BDY
PNT
SP 7033687E11320
TR 942 45 45
04CB84
General Motors Certified etc...
I am sorry if this is not the format that it would usually be in. However, this is the information I got. If anyone could tell me what type of body I have that would be greatly appreciated.
Newkid8
BDY
PNT
SP 7033687E11320
TR 942 45 45
04CB84
General Motors Certified etc...
I am sorry if this is not the format that it would usually be in. However, this is the information I got. If anyone could tell me what type of body I have that would be greatly appreciated.
Newkid8
#28
OH NO!!! I had to read it twice.. you have one of THOSE... It isn't worth $hit... I'll take it off your hands and dispose of it properly for you.. that way you won't have to worry about what color to paint it or what that silly air valve is for.. then you'll be free to buy a Honda and stop all this madness........
#29
OH NO!!! I had to read it twice.. you have one of THOSE... It isn't worth $hit... I'll take it off your hands and dispose of it properly for you.. that way you won't have to worry about what color to paint it or what that silly air valve is for.. then you'll be free to buy a Honda and stop all this madness........
#32
The title was lost. The story behind it was that it was bought in the U.S., McAllen, Texas, and then taken to Mexico to be raced. I then traded a 73 GTO for the Cutlass. When the car was checked out by the Texas DMV, it was not found as stolen or anything like that. My dad had to go to the DMV to get a new title to the car and do that whole dance. The car is legally mine under a new title with a new VN number since the last one could not be found.
#33
He was kidding about the "I'll take it thing"
Anyways, if your vin says one thing, and your data plate says another, you have (most likely) a stolen car. I hope for you that you don't, but something is a little fishy around here, and I'm nowhere near the docks.
Anyways, if your vin says one thing, and your data plate says another, you have (most likely) a stolen car. I hope for you that you don't, but something is a little fishy around here, and I'm nowhere near the docks.
#34
Your body plate says its a 1970 cutlass S holiday coupe 8 cylinder for sure.
The paint code is 45. Aspen green
TR942 is the trim...interior....bench seat, I believe.
The paint code is 45. Aspen green
TR942 is the trim...interior....bench seat, I believe.
Last edited by don71; January 28th, 2008 at 03:20 PM. Reason: more info on paint code
#35
Here is a Vin decoding website, this will help tell you what you have.
http://www.buyclassiccars.com/vin.asp
brens71
http://www.buyclassiccars.com/vin.asp
brens71
#36
How could they NOT find a vin # as it is right there on the dash tag?That car is a 1970 cutlass SUPREME not a cutlass S judgeing from the rear bumper as that is a 1970 bumper BUT could have been hung on a 71 or 72 cutlass . The cutlass S has different quarter panels than your supreme. If your dash tag does not match for a 1970 - 1972 cutlass SUPREME you have a stolen or parts put together car BUT if the texas A-Holes gave you clear title for a car which is not really legal judging from what you have told us what else can anybody say!. Make sure of the dash vin # before we go any farther telling you EXACTLY what you have.
Last edited by buzzbomb; February 13th, 2008 at 11:57 AM.
#37
How could they NOT find a vin # as it is right there on the dash tag?That car is a 1970 cutlass SUPREME not a cutlass S judgeing from the rear bumper as that is a 1970 bumper BUT could have been hung on a 71 or 72 cutlass . The cutlass S has different quarter panels than your supreme. If your dash tag does not match for a 1970 - 1972 cutlass SUPREME you have a stolen or parts put together car BUT if the texas A-Holes gave you clear title for a car which is not really legal judging from what you have told us what else can anybody say!. Make sure of the dash vin # before we go any farther telling you EXACTLY what you have.
#38
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Your VIN plate says you have a 1972 Cutlass Supreme,350 4BBL-180hp
made at the Framingham Plant
7033687E11320
Your trim plate say Cutlass S V8, 2 door holiday coupe,
made at the Linden, NJ Plant
One of them is wrong. It appears to be the Vin plate.
So, if you were to have the DMV run the trim plate....
odds are, you'd come up with a stolen vehicle.
It won't be fun trying to sell that car.
Your VIN plate says you have a 1972 Cutlass Supreme,350 4BBL-180hp
made at the Framingham Plant
7033687E11320
Your trim plate say Cutlass S V8, 2 door holiday coupe,
made at the Linden, NJ Plant
One of them is wrong. It appears to be the Vin plate.
So, if you were to have the DMV run the trim plate....
odds are, you'd come up with a stolen vehicle.
It won't be fun trying to sell that car.
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