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Just wondering if a 71 cutlass hood fits on a 72? I have a buddy that works in a weld/fab shop and was thinking about having him bend up some scoops and tig weld them on a hood to make a replica oai hood from steel. I was wondering if 71 and 72 hoods interchange. I have a 72 and don't want to butcher the original hood. I found a rust free 71 hood for $50 but I don't want to drive an hour if it won't fit
Last edited by Almond900; June 24th, 2016 at 06:27 AM.
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Originally Posted by VI Cutty
Hoods are the same for 71/72.
Almost right, but not quite.
71/72 hoods are interchangeable, but 1972 AC cars do not have the rear cowl piercing that all 71 models, and all non AC 72's did. There are 6 different hoods listed in the 72 Cutlass Assembly manual.
Almost right, but not quite.
71/72 hoods are interchangeable, but 1972 AC cars do not have the rear cowl piercing that all 71 models, and all non AC 72's did. There are 6 different hoods listed in the 72 Cutlass Assembly manual.
I thought it was five:
Metal hood with chrome louvers and without vents
Metal hood with chrome louvers and with vents
Metal hood without chrome louvers and without vents
Metal hood without chrome louvers and with vents
Fiberglass O.A.I. hood
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
I thought it was five:
Metal hood with chrome louvers and without vents
Metal hood with chrome louvers and with vents
Metal hood without chrome louvers and without vents
Metal hood without chrome louvers and with vents
Fiberglass O.A.I. hood
Almost right.
The first 4 are correct because they're all metal hoods. You forgot about the W29 2 hoods that were faux louvers (with and without vents)
I wasn't including the W25 hood because that's a no brainer interchange between 71/72 - same exact hood, same exact part number.
Almost right.
The first 4 are correct because they're all metal hoods. You forgot about the W29 2 hoods that were faux louvers (with and without vents)
Which are the first and second ones on my list. I still get four metal and one fiberglass for five total.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Which are the first and second ones on my list. I still get four metal and one fiberglass for five total.
No Joe, you're missing the obvious. The W29 hoods had piercing for the Oldsmobile script above the headlights - 2 versions: with AC and without AC, so that makes 6 metal hoods and the W25. Like this:
Like I said, almost right. I'm not sure why you think I needed pictures to know what a 72 hood looks like, I'm very well versed on them. re: 'chrome louvers'?? Not so. They are 'faux louvers' and were painted body color from the factory, with the exception of the W29 which was black no matter what color the body was.
BTW, that blue car is a terrible example of striping and grill/numerals for a 72 442 clone, not to mention the rocker trim and deck lid spoiler that was never offered in 72. It seems like very few people pay attention to the striping details or what's needed to make that car into a 'tribute' offering. Not sure if I like the blue bumpers, but it completes the theme I guess.
No Joe, you're missing the obvious. The W29 hoods had piercing for the Oldsmobile script above the headlights - 2 versions: with AC and without AC, so that makes 6 metal hoods and the W25. Like this:
If you asked someone how many different front fenders were made for the 1972 cars, I think most people would respond "one - for each side". The parts book similarly lists only one fender P/N for each side, not the half dozen trim piercing variations. Same with the metal hoods. There are four P/Ns in the parts book, not six.
And the photos were not necessarily for your benefit.
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The parts book similarly lists only one fender P/N for each side, not the half dozen trim piercing variations. Same with the metal hoods. There are four P/Ns in the parts book, not six.
Well do tell. You have a parts book that lists only 4 of the 6 all metal production hoods. Just for your benefit, here are ALL 6 hoods and part numbers so you can update your information.
And of course, as you pointed out, with the W25 hood that makes 7 hoods available for the 72 Cutlass lineup.
So, yes I get that you might not have posted the pics as clarification to me, but it sure appears that way if you go back and look at the posts. I guess you don't know what a W29 hood is or you'd have picked up on the obvious error right away in your pictorial. I did post that hood for you as a picture but you ignored it.
re: how many fenders? How the heck does that relate to how many hoods there are? Get serious. Fenders in parts book always listed them unscripted or pierced for obvious reasons of body repair. Only the OEM production runs had to worry about the proper hydro piercing for each models emblems. That's a rather petty argument, same as how many types of hood springs for the OEM Cutlass hoods.
Almost right, but not quite.
71/72 hoods are interchangeable, but 1972 AC cars do not have the rear cowl piercing that all 71 models, and all non AC 72's did. There are 6 different hoods listed in the 72 Cutlass Assembly manual.
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IDK, I suspect it has something to do with general design and air intake for the non air and air systems. Interesting enough the 71 hoods had cowl piercings on AC and non AC cars.
Well do tell. You have a parts book that lists only 4 of the 6 all metal production hoods. Just for your benefit, here are ALL 6 hoods and part numbers so you can update your information
407257 - Standard hood (3200, 3636-69, 4200, 4800)
411854 - Standard hood w/AC (3200, 3636-69, 4200, 4800)
407256 - 35Y75 & 35Y78 Hood option (3677, 3687)
411855 - 35Y75 & 35Y78 Hood option w/AC (3677, 3687)
408538 - 35W29 Hood Option (3287, 3677-3687, 4267)
411857 - 35W29 Hood Option w/AC (3287, 3677-3687, 4267)
Very good information Allan Thank you. So just to clarify, are you saying that the only difference between the following 2 hoods below are the holes for the "Oldsmobile" script above the headlight?
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Actually, ALL the W29 metal hoods (AC and non AC) had those extra piercings for the Oldsmobile script. None of the regular hoods had it, as the Oldsmobile script went on the grills. And of course the W25 hood never had piercings as it was distinctive in it's own right.
I've heard from some members who have early production 72 models that are AC equipped and still have the cowl pierced hoods. I believe that to be a production over run from 1971 as the 72 Assembly manual is specific about the hood design and stampings. It seems to be a can of worms for discussion though.
Let me ask my earlier question a different way. What is the difference between the following 2 hoods? 411855 - 35Y75 & 35Y78 Hood option w/AC (3677, 3687) 411857 - 35W29 Hood Option w/AC (3287, 3677-3687, 4267)
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Originally Posted by Texas442
Let me ask my earlier question a different way. What is the difference between the following 2 hoods? 411855 - 35Y75 & 35Y78 Hood option w/AC (3677, 3687) 411857 - 35W29 Hood Option w/AC (3287, 3677-3687, 4267)
Ok, after looking at my Assembly manual what I can deduce is that the 411855 hood and 411857 main difference is the 3 front piercings on the 411857 for the Oldsmobile script. Other than that they appear to be identical. I'd suggest that anyone with the 411855 who wanted to make it into a W29 hood just needs to pierce the hood and add the Oldsmobile script and likely no one would know the difference. I've seen the hood script on Fusick website and also the grill script. They appear to be really close to the same size. The only thing I know about the OEM grill script is it also has a black backing which I don't see on the Fusick page. Have a look and see if you can spot the difference
June 24th, 2016, 06:23 AM
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