64 cutlass / hurst shifter

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Old May 30, 2022 | 11:46 AM
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64 cutlass / hurst shifter

Does anyone have a hurst shifter in a 64 cutlass? It looks like I will have to open up the side of the original shifter hole to make it fit

I recently bought the install kit with new linkage and adapter plate from Paul Cangialosi. Some sources say 64-65 cutlass and some say 65

Just wondering if I’m missing something. I also have the center console and I’m wondering if that is going to interfere with the shifter as well

If I can’t use the center console it will make me
probably look for a stock shifter and sell my hurst shifter
Old May 30, 2022 | 12:20 PM
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1964-67 use essentially the same floorpan. The 1966-67 cars came from the factory with a Hurst shifter and that same console (yeah, the 65s also came with a Hurst shifter with the Dearborn three speed). A 66-69 factory shifter should work fine.
Old May 30, 2022 | 12:53 PM
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Thanks Joe. Seems like from what you are saying that if I can get it through the hole then the console “”should fit””

This is what I’m running into: It kinda fits. But I will never get the top bolt in I can’t tell if I’m out of place forward to back. Or maybe I’m too high
I don’t have the factory crossmember and it wouldn’t fit if I did have it because of all the things I’ve changed

I don’t want to but I could do a pie cut and pry it open a bit and weld in a new little section.

I don’t really have a preference with the hurst vs factory It’s just that I have the hurst and stick and new rods and all. And I have none of the factory parts

edit:: in the bottom picture it still need to rotate clockwise just a hair. Maybe it’s half a hole off but the bottom bolt is installed
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Old May 30, 2022 | 02:11 PM
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I had that same top bolt problem with the shifter in my 70. Since the crossmember is out anyway, it might be easier to bolt the shifter to the plate with the trans lowered a little, then jack it up into place. Note that I said the 66-69 shifter will work with the console. That aftermarket stick won't. It's offset too far to the right. It looks like the Chevelle stick. The factory stick comes nearly straight up and the console hole is offset accordingly.



Old May 30, 2022 | 02:37 PM
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Ahhhh. Makes sense. I’ll look at the sticks that are out there. Maybe by the weekend I’ll find some time to try slipping it in like you said

thanks

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Old May 30, 2022 | 03:29 PM
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the factory 64 hump is smaller ( with the T handle factory shifter ) then the 65 -67 ( HUrst Shifter ) it was not untill 65 that the hurst shifter was installed by the factory,
hence the shift boot for the console is smaller..
you should be able to widen and weld in a 65 -67 hump in identical location so your console fits and get the 65-67 boot .
Old Jun 6, 2022 | 09:18 PM
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Also that adapter is not the same as a GM adapter that the Hurst Competition shifter uses.
Old Jun 7, 2022 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
Also that adapter is not the same as a GM adapter that the Hurst Competition shifter uses.
I asked them which one to go with and ended up with kit 373-3163... which says the plate is part Pt. 195 7773
https://www.5speeds.com/cart/index.p...product_id=246

My transmission was a little off center, and fixing that helped for sure, but it is still a tight fit...

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