Good afternoon everyone,

Been in a bit of a funk lately. Stuff happens. My sport of champions is back starting on Sportsnet shortly.

 

Ya musta missed "Jungle Pam"

 

Afternoon gentleman,
Finished hanging drop ceiling for the neighbour. Now I remember why i closed business!! lol
Not sure about the rest of you, but I am stoked for the last instalment of The Avengers.
Opens tonight here, but since the boys have school tomorrow, will be tomorrow night. And its over a 3 hour movie!!!
Have a great PM boys

 

Okee dokee,

Got a fix of last round of seasons curling at the Champions Cup Draw 7 in Saskatoon SK. Stupid Sportsnet only starts coverage on day 4 of the event. Roger's media streaming also sucks so I'm relegated to watching only what they decide they want to broadcast and when. Since when did hockey become so important that it ursurps curling??? Oh yeah, forgot I live in Canada.... Still, curling has been around way longer than hockey. Not enough people realize its cultural significance I guess.

Kyle - You'd be flying from Winterpeg? IDK why you'd pick AC instead of WJ. WJ has been incredibly reliable for on time departure and arrivals for me. AC is typically more expensive and flies the same route as WJ. Granted, I wouldn't want to fly Swoop, which is likely to offer the same no frills options as Tango. I've used WJ numerous occasions and had only good service from them. Flew on AC from Cowtown to Dallas and it was quite nice, but expensive and they used the Bombardier CRJ 900. They have to pay for that luxury leather seating somehow.... Good luck with your flight choice and trip to the coast. Don't be surprised if there's an extra fuel surcharge in July at YVR due to extreme fuel prices out there though. I seriously doubt you'll see that idiot in Ottawa get in another term. Now there's 7 provinces that have gone to PC blue. PEI latest of them. I foresee the demise of the nasty red party in October, especially if they elect to keep their clown prince at the helm.

Jim - I remember being bungled in the jungle. Had nothing to do with wimmen on de strip tho. Bermember Jethro Tull from back in de day ('74 - War Child)??

Glenn - Congrats on the place at the car show. I never had any doubt you'd be taking some hardware home with the graceful old lady. (the car) BTW, did you notice that the 72 red vert '442' on the Best of Show plaque is fake? The W29 option had deletes, and one of them was the rocker trim which that car has. 72 is such an easy year for cloning if people know how to do it right.....

Marc - Welcome back. Hopefully the rest of the estate will settle out nicely and there won't be much in the way of argument. I also have full coverage on my 72 even though it hasn't turned a wheel for awhile. Like you said, it's cheap insurance and gives full coverage. I asked about having it covered under the home policy and was told that the only way that could happen is if it didn't have an engine in it.

Mike - That build sheet from Fremont is interesting. What thread is the car being discussed?

Second day of gale force winds here today. Don't know WTH is wrong with these stupid weather patterns. Forecast is for rain and snow later tonight and tomorrow. Glad I got the lawns de-thatched and cleaned up. I got the POS lawnmower running and now I believe I know what the next step is. The choke is working fine but it's running too rich so I need to turn the idle screw in about 1/8-1/4 turn to lean it out. If that doesn't work, this is its last season.

 

Such a beautiful evening. I miss not being out and about at night during spring and fall, now summer and winter you can have it. We're supposed to have rain and wind tonight and tomorrow morning, but then be nice this weekend.

Allan that's a red 442 convertible in Indiana. I don't remember the name of the thread. The ebay auction is over but it will be back as it didn't meet reserve.

Friday tomorrow finally. It feels like a long week, because the last two weeks were 4 days. Hopefully we get out a little early. Saturday I'm (hopefully) going to get the Deuce and a half.

Okay Tiger is back in and it's off to bed. See you all manana. That's mahn-yahna for some folks and man-yaaaana for us Midwesterners.

 

Hello Allan. Used to fly West Jet alot flying back and forth for work. Still do the odd time, but they have some odd sceduals out of Winnipeg and AC was a tad cheaper. Had luck with AC, even got tossed in first class from a flight from Cowtown to Winterpeg.
But like gambling, your winning streak can end lol
Yes fuel is nuts in BC, last post I seen was 1.92 a liter. That orange Crush and Red Wave for you. Country is looking nice and Blue, hope that's how it goes in October. Our country cant take much more from Ottawa.
Any ways hope all is well with every 1. Have a great PM peps

 

Well it was an interesting day.
It looks like I now have a 3600 lb problem in the form of a slightly dismantled 53 Oldsmobile. My buddy cleared out what he was taking and left the rest to me to clear up. So I have to figure out a away to get my two engine stands, an engine crane, and the Olds off that property by the middle of next month, and the owner is waiting. Oh yeah, there's also a loose 371 4bbl that's still there too. So, I guess I'm going to have to take the car, evaluate just how bad the fender issue is, and then decide what to do with it all. Apparently the fender is clean, but since it was in an accident it's slightly bent off kilter which meant a larger than normal gap between it and the hood, otherwise nothing is wrong with it. So...I don't know what to do, "buddy" took off and went home to BC and just kind of left things hanging with me. I'm more than a little pissed.

So a couple of questions; is a stock original 1957-58 371 4 barrel worth anything? I think it still is "free" and not seized up. It's been stored inside for over 30 years. Does said 371 bolt up to an older Hydramatic? Would it be a good idea to swap the 303 for the 371, or does the 371 have too much power for the older transmission?

I really gotta think about this...on the one hand, I want to work over another old car; I miss doing it. On the other hand, that 53 sedan is going from worthless to worse than worthless because it's originality is gone with that fender issue. It's still all free, I'm not paying anything out yet until I have to pay to remove all that crap.

So; do I just make a phone call and haul it all off to the crusher or do I bring it home and try and makes something of it? The car still runs, albeit it needs an overhaul, and the rest of it is in pretty good shape. The one fender has a headlight bucket that is slightly off alignment, and won't line up 100% but it's rust free and dent free.

I dunno...

 

Nailhead, sounds like you are not have a great time .
Those unexpected suck

 

Headed norte after I get packed up

Norm, I keep getting [along with a ton of other junk] e-mails saying "I've been hacked " and they want me to pay them to stop, Is there anywhere/way to report this?


Have a great weekend Olds friends

 

Morning all,
Well we officially had our first April Shower. Rained well over night, now it should start turning green.
Maybe start considering planting the garden in a week or so, gotta keep Mama Bear busy!!! lol
But another day of porting heads, will try to put a full day in on them today.
Block is in the machine shop, parts are ordered from Mark, and the heads in my shed being worked. Hope to send them out next week now.

Mike, its nice to see Tiger back out on the greens. Now as long he can keep his 9 iron in order, will finish with a great golfing career.

Allan,you still living in Olds??
Have a great morning gentleman

 

Good morning everyone,

The weekend looms, sigh. I guess the Easter weekend has everyone excited about 2 short work weeks. Well the kids still are. The ones next door keep kicking their soccer ball into my back yard and then play knock a door ginger on my doorbell to get it back. Getting old in the tooth so I told them I was busy and I'll get it later when I'm not doing anything. In the summer if they start breaking my flowers with that ball, it might mysteriously get a hole in it. I've asked them politely to kick it some other direction or go to the park and play but noooooo. Starting to feel like Mr. Wilson.

Marc - That's a tough call and I can appreciate how that would leave you more than a 'little' pissed. You could probably transplant the 371 but since the car's value and originality isn't there I would think more about going the resto mod route with the driveline. Ya knew that your buddy would stick it to you with this car; I remember that conversation from a few months back. I guess the question is more along the lines of whether you want that era of car to work on or maybe something else. Free isn't always the best deal, and the car comes with some baggage that you don't need. My humble suggestion is walk away before it becomes a money pit. Been there, learned the hard way.

Kyle - Whut??? Olds?? Never lived there so I'm not sure where you got that. Under my avatar it says I live in Edmonton. Another point of clarification - Mike works for Big D (Delta Airlines). His dog is named Tiger - that's what he's referring to all the time, not Tiger Woods. I don't know if he even Golfs. Mike loves german shepherds and had 2 other lovely ones before Tiger. You'd have to ask him about why he named it Tiger though. Now Jim (Jamesbo) and Norm (Vintage Chief) both whack whitey and both probably have a better idea of how that career will pan out. Yup, fuel in BC is high but I believe the pricing you're referring to is for Premium. Regular is currently around $1.73 in Vancouver proper, but the rest of the province is only slightly behind ranging from $1.35 in the interior to $1.50 on the island. I guess anyone who drives an upscale car that requires premium can afford the cost of fuel and insurance so that's likely a moot point to them. But it's also going to affect the cost of almost everything that's delivered to consumer markets by any form of transportation. The majority of B Columbians however are not happy with Horgan or Trudope about what's happening to them. I have family in Surrey and on the island who aren't happy about the cost of living there in general. Even the cost of just visiting there is getting crazy. Do you have a build thread on the site for your car?

Jim - If you're just getting emails that's not the end of the world. Just set up your email to block the suspected spam. There's a tool in your email browser to help set that up. IDK what email you use. I have Thunderbird but used to have Windows Mail. Have ya ever thought about just doing a return email (without opening any of their links) threatening to harass them back and send it 100 times a day?

Mike - I looked for that thread but no luck. I did a quick Google search for 67 442 verts and one came up but the car was not a 442. It was a CS finished in Saffron Yellow and matching interior. Pretty expensive too ($33,000) considering there were some obvious flaws with the cars presentation.

Glenn - Y'all are welcome to stop by and help me wax the car one of these days. I could use some pointers and would willingly watch as you show me how to do it. I'm a slooowww learner so you might have the car all detailed before I get the hang of what you do to get those perfect results. I just realized I had a bottle of Maguires wax in the garage that is unopened, so I guess I should get with the program.

Greg - I'm not the least surprised about what some homeowners take shortcuts with. Sounds like you have enough for a trip to the dump? Funny story about the horn going off. I guess cutting the wire isn't the end of the world. Just remember that it's still live when you go to splice it back together. I had that happen with my 85 Calais which was only a few months old at the time. Late at night, rain and I'm coming home from work. Stopped at a red light. Light turns green and the guy in front sits there for almost 10 seconds. I pounded the horn and when I let it go it was still blaring. I had to pull over to the side of the road and pop the horn. Luckily I was able to trace the wire to the horns pretty fast and just pulled the connectors off. Turns out the pressure plate in the horn took a beating and stayed bent against the horn contact. Dealer fixed it under warranty. Life has it's moments doesn't it?

 

Morning Allan, thats not common to see kids outside playing anymore. Wouldn't put a hole in the ball, might never see them outside again. lol
Its keeping you young this way, you're playing soccer with the kids. Well more ref I suppose.

Oh ha ha, my bad!!! Have you mixed up with Ken, he lives in Olds. Glanced your avatar but never payed attention.
And oops on the Tiger!! Tiger is back in, in the house. I presume his german shepherd must look like a tiger, hair colour that is. Or can chew you apart, 1 or the other.
Ya not sure, some 1 shared a photo of an Esso sign from BC. Was the posted price for fuel. They could of ran out of regular and medium grade tho, hence why was posted1.93
Most part of Metro Van is around 1.73 I have been reading. My nephew lives in Abby, its the 1.35 mark, getting up there too. He's only 5 minutes from the boarder, still cheaper for him to run to the US and fill up.
I would imagine they are frustrated with the cost. I see the price and I am, I live 2400 K away from Van.
Yes there is a build thread. 1980 442 engine build, under small blocks. Was in lloyd working for 3 months this winter, found the 80 442 t-topper in Calgary online.
Figure it be a great 1st car for Kelvin, since he will be starting his last year of high school this fall.

Cheers, back to my dandelion tea

 

Hey Kyle, which Ken lives in Olds? I'm curious cuz they hold the Rocket Roundup there every year at Hildebrandt Motors. What kind of car does he have?

 

Jim- Have you actually been hacked? The only one which might have found its way to you may have been the Ransomware malware; but, I doubt you've been hacked by Ransomware since you're still logged onto CO and communicating. Additionally, Ransomware 'generally' targets small businesses & not individuals. With regards to "..is there anywhere/way to report this?" Welcome to what the rest of computer users have had to deal with for some time. I received a ton of those "...you've been hacked...pay us money now...." emails about 7-8 months ago. While they're certainly a nuisance (they are contained w/in my Junk mail folder), there isn't much you can do. They've already been reported and actually the number of incidents have decreased worldwide, but there isn't any relief you're going to obtain &/or notice by reporting the emails.

What 'generally' happens is this (and, many times by kids and juvenile hackers attempting to see if their hacking attempts are actually 'working').

They'll target an ISP w/in a given metropolitan area and remain there until numerous ISPs update their AV definitions to remove the attacks. I'm surprised you are receiving those emails because they began over one year ago and nearly all of those types of emails have had updated AV definitions applied to nearly all ISP servers coast-to-coast. They target a particular ISP because ISPs release blocks of IP addresses. Whatever you do, do not respond to any of those emails with any type of statement AT ALL - NEVER. Not even to tell them to F*$(OFF.

 

I did get a chuckle out of your statement when I read it earlier this morning.

 

Norm, the e-mails are coming through my web page(where families can ask for additional information about my cemetery)

 

Do 'you' control your website? If so, have you installed the latest updated spam control add-in option to your website? Probably not. Go in and if it isn't turned "on", turn it "on", sometimes you have to install it if it wasn't installed by default.

 

Jim - Much has to do w/ who hosts your website, what software you're using to host your website, and how it's configured. In 'general', you should have at a minimum the Akismet Anti-Spam Plug-In installed which checks comments and contact form submissions against a global database of spam to protect your site from malicious content. The Askismet Anti-Spam Plug-In is generally used on a WordPress site. There are other types of Anti-Spam Plug-Ins available - some are bundled (but not instantiated) with your web-hosting provider. Whether you do it yourself or you have someone else managing your website, look for the Anti-Spam Plug-Ins available for your site. I manage my own site via GoDaddy and I manage my own software for my own site.

 

Evening everyone.

One week behind, Not much to go for Spain Like 35 weeks of something Damn im tired; and got a flu either from work or from my little boy. Thought im going to cought my lungs out today at work. Heating up sauna helped alot. It really does; sitting at 80 celsius opens up your nose really fast. Taking some whiskey currently. Today i received my short-block; alot closer to completion.

Ill try to caught up tomorrow; now ill just whish good evening for all of you guys, and see you later tomorrow.

 

Hi everyone.

Got out of work about an hour early today. Not bad. Beautiful out if not a little windy. Gonna run a couple errands.

Allan speaks the truth about Tiger the dog. He is actually named after The Brady Bunch. Neither Tiger or I golf. I also did have two German Shepherds before Tiger, but they got old and died. I miss them. And actually I had another German Shepherd before that. He was my first one, and the benchmark. Tiger is doing well but has a ways to go to equal how exceptional Max was.

Also Allan, in the spirit of Delta 98, and most people don't know this(nor would they care) Delta Air Lines is three words. Several airlines started out with air and lines separate but over the years were combined. Somehow we stayed with the three words and honestly, I hope it never changes because I think it gives us an air of a little more class.

Kyle when I was in Australia in March the gas prices were the same as what you're talking about. I know it's per liter but it's a little exciting when I first see it to think it's a gallon. And every year our trip starts out the same. Do we need to put gas in the car? My car doesn't run on gas it runs on petrol.

Marc I don't know what to tell you about the 53. Cut the trunk off and make a couch. If it's a running and driving car I wouldn't send it to the crusher just because your friend is a dick.

Okay for sure gotta make something of this afternoon. Hope everyone is set up for a good weekend.

 

Hi everyone.

Got out of work about an hour early today. Not bad. Beautiful out if not a little windy. Gonna run a couple errands.

Allan speaks the truth about Tiger the dog. He is actually named after The Brady Bunch. Neither Tiger or I golf. I also did have two German Shepherds before Tiger, but they got old and died. I miss them. And actually I had another German Shepherd before that. He was my first one, and the benchmark. Tiger is doing well but has a ways to go to equal how exceptional Max was.

Also Allan, in the spirit of Delta 98, and most people don't know this(nor would they care) Delta Air Lines is three words. Several airlines started out with air and lines separate but over the years were combined. Somehow we stayed with the three words and honestly, I hope it never changes because I think it gives us an air of a little more class.

Kyle when I was in Australia in March the gas prices were the same as what you're talking about. I know it's per liter but it's a little exciting when I first see it to think it's a gallon. And every year our trip starts out the same. Do we need to put gas in the car? My car doesn't run on gas it runs on petrol.

Marc I don't know what to tell you about the 53. Cut the trunk off and make a couch. If it's a running and driving car I wouldn't send it to the crusher just because your friend is a dick.

Okay for sure gotta make something of this afternoon. Hope everyone is set up for a good weekend.

 

You'd have to live here I guess. There's lots of kids playing outside here. Not that I don't appreciate kids, but these ones are kicking their soccer ball over the 6' fence between our yard. I've asked them no less than a dozen times to please not kick it our way. And no, I wouldn't be playing soccer with them; I'm much too old to do that kind of stuff anymore. In the summer we have a lovely flower garden that I don't want to be the victim of their unwanted demolition. They moved in last July and have been anything but good neighbors. Noisy, messy and lack respect for everyone who is here. Doesn't help that their parents only speak Arabic and make no attempt to fit in either. Is that too political??

Jouni - Good to hear from you. Get well soon. Hopefully you don't get your son sick(er).

Mike - Sorry about that. I'll remember to keep it 3 words in the future I see you got one of those famous double posts going.

 

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...rtible-134769/

Not sure this is going to work. This was posted originally by Skytop72 in the Cars for Sale section.

 

Yes I want to make it there 1 day. Try for this year but cannot see that happening.
He owns a blue 76 442

 

Mike,
I bet the first sight is, then fill up a find out its not. Ouch!!!
Sorry to hear about your past pups.

Allan, I am glad we live on a dead end street. Lots of kids around here playing all the time, know what you mean.
And yes the damage to the flower bed wouldn't be cool. Are they on their own or working with the social program? Cause you could ask them to get a tall net

 

Mike, I was able to go to the original eBay listing on that car. You're right, there's something just wrong in that provenance. The cowl tag looks right, especially the rivets. But there's no way in heck that the Fisher Body would have been produced a week after the car was scheduled on the production line. I'd be inclined to believe the cowl tag, but I've seen 'documented' cars with fake build sheets cross the BJ floor too. There are companies out there who specialize in producing build sheets for those who must have them. It's not ethical IMO, and they can easily age the document by skimming it with milk and then baking it in the oven for a short time to get that aged look. The car is gorgeous but likely in the price range that would make a lot of people cringe. Are you still interested in it? I saw the seller added the cowl tag info to the listing and I would guess that's something you might have asked about?

Ok, now I know which Ken you're talking about. Ken Pilidis and his car is called "The Beast". It's one of only 143 442's produced in 1976 with the L75 engine. His is one of 6 known to survive today. He doesn't live in Olds though, he's in Sherwood Park - not far from where Marc lives. Ken is also president of the Oldsmobile Northern Lights Chapter You probably thought he was from Olds because of this pic? It was taken before the car underwent a body on restoration a few years back, but it's not a residency thing. Just an incredibly nice Olds tribute from the town of Olds AB. Olds wasn't named for the car; it was originally named 'Sixth Siding' out of Calgary. When CPR took over the station in 1891, it was to be renamed "Shannon" in honor of David Shannon who had created the Sixth siding and station. He declined that honor so the town site was named for a CPR traffic manager, George Olds. George pre-dates Ransom Eli by about 32 years.


re: the kids. Not on any social program. They're 'privileged' and spoiled rotten. They bought the house next door and their financing fell through. Somehow, praise allah, they found enough money to gut and renovate it after the fact. The GC said the renos were in the 120K range, and all the while the kids were getting expensive toys to play with. They don't play nice with the neighborhood kids so they pretty much play by themselves now. Too bad, they had a golden opportunity and they blew it. I was tempted to buy a flag that supports Alberta Pork Producers and fly it instead of my Canada flag. Supposedly the parents have been in Canada for the past 8 years and haven't made any attempt to learn English. Shall we say it's been a very first hand learning experience to see what Canada's immigration policies support?

 

Allan I did ask the guy for the cowl tag and he was nice enough to send it to me as well as post it. I asked if he also had the Fisher broadcast card and he didn't know what that was. So I guessed no. I would love to have that car but it's too rich for my blood. Also it used to be "Ivory." I asked what shade ivory was and first he said it was white, then he said it was crème. It's probably that awful yellow. He did a full repaint, it looks very nice. If the car was started on the Friday, they didn't work weekends, and was finished the next week then 06C would be possible. That is if the tag was stamped after the build sheet.

Ken used to participate here a number of years ago. I thought his car had a forced air hood on it? Those cars looked so comfortable when they were new but after a few years in the sun the plastic is a disaster.

The next time the soccer ball comes into the yard pour some bacon grease on it.

 

Ok, now I know which Ken you're talking about. Ken Pilidis and his car is called "The Beast". It's one of only 143 442's produced in 1976 with the L75 engine. His is one of 6 known to survive today. He doesn't live in Olds though, he's in Sherwood Park - not far from where Marc lives. Ken is also president of the Oldsmobile Northern Lights Chapter You probably thought he was from Olds because of this pic? It was taken before the car underwent a body on restoration a few years back, but it's not a residency thing. Just an incredibly nice Olds tribute from the town of Olds AB. Olds wasn't named for the car; it was originally named 'Sixth Siding' out of Calgary. When CPR took over the station in 1891, it was to be renamed "Shannon" in honor of David Shannon who had created the Sixth siding and station. He declined that honor so the town site was named for a CPR traffic manager, George Olds. George pre-dates Ransom Eli by about 32 years.


re: the kids. Not on any social program. They're 'privileged' and spoiled rotten. They bought the house next door and their financing fell through. Somehow, praise allah, they found enough money to gut and renovate it after the fact. The GC said the renos were in the 120K range, and all the while the kids were getting expensive toys to play with. They don't play nice with the neighborhood kids so they pretty much play by themselves now. Too bad, they had a golden opportunity and they blew it. I was tempted to buy a flag that supports Alberta Pork Producers and fly it instead of my Canada flag. Supposedly the parents have been in Canada for the past 8 years and haven't made any attempt to learn English. Shall we say it's been a very first hand learning experience to see what Canada's immigration policies support?[/QUOTE]

Yep that the Ken!!! Yeah not many of them around, very rare. And here I thought he lived in Olds. I've been nothing but wrong today. Lol. Cool story about Olds.

Geeze that's too bad about your neighbors. All I gotta say, start cooking lots of bacon!!!!!

 

If I do recall correctly, he does have dual nose hood on it.
Lol on the bacon grease

 

I've seen Ken's car around, so he's a member of this board too? It's a pretty car, and unique too, don't see any of those around anymore.

I've decided what to do with the 53. A crusher is going to get it, and same goes for the 371 since I have no idea what's going on with it. On the one hand, I hate the idea of crunching potentially good parts, but on the other, I haven't got the time or the real estate to try and sell it or try and part it out, and here in western Canada the market for Oldsmobiles of that vintage is pretty thin. It took me 3 months to practically give away 3 1955 Oldsmobiles a few years ago; - and yeah, same "buddy" involved in that deal too, I ended up paying for and getting stuck with 3 cars because he misunderstood something I'd said. So this was the "fool me twice' part, there isn't going to be a third time. I can tell you from hard experience that life is tough when you're an idiot. I have a feeling every time I'd look at that car I'd remember what was done to me, and it would never get done. So now I'm done.

So I'm going to continue on shopping for a nice Starfire...I also wouldn't say no to a nice 1960 Super 88 or a 98. Seriously thinking of putting my Wildcat up for sale.

This weekend there's a swap meet out in Stony Plain; I guess I'll go and check it out see if it's worth the trouble of going to it. It's supposed to snow this weekend, so there won't be anything else to do.

And by the way Allan, it's "Inshah Allah, Allahu Akbar", or "by the grace of Allah, Allah be praised", - that's normally how they refer to it. Good to see you back...

 

T is indeed "Ivory" in 67 paint codes. I can understand why he was uncertain how to describe the color. 2 obviously refers to the black vert top.


Nope, the build sheet is always done after the body arrives at the final assembly. Each division (in this case Fremont) produces the body at the on site Fisher plant close to the final assembly. Final Assembly is when the build sheet is created. So in a nutshell, no the build sheet wouldn't have been printed before the cowl tag went on the car. That was why I questioned the authenticity of the build sheet that was shown.

Bahahahaha, that's exactly what I've heard from several people. Also was told to start raising pigs in the backyard...

Ken has both hoods. The hood you're referring to is OAI (Outside Air Induction) and yes Ken ordered that from VFN and had it installed. It's also fully functional with under hood components. Another add-on was the deck lid spoiler that came off a Buick...Here's another picture with the VFN hood. I've visited him and that is his garage and giant Olds sign inside.


Ken is a member of CO. His screen name is 442much. He lurks in the background and sadly, he was last active here back in 2015. As I mentioned earlier, he's also the president of the Oldsmobile Northern Lights Chapter here in western Canada.

My version sounds more like blah blah blah blah blah uki wuki duki luky blah blah blah. Translation: Learn to speak the official language of the country you chose to immigrate to."By the grace of God" would be more acceptable to me..... Oh, another thing - I tried to introduce myself to the missus and she blathered away in Arabic and ended up with the word Muslim. Sheesh, all I did was say, Hello, my name is Allan, and extended my hand to her. Crap, she backed away like I had leprosy or something. An hour later her hubby comes out with one of the sons to translate: Muslim women are not allowed to shake hands with a man. Well I'll beef hooked. Like I said - Learn to be like normal Canadians. This cultural BS is getting out of hand IMO.

 

Allan I had a whole bit typed out because I was confused and just not getting what you were saying. Then at the end it hit me so I erased the whole thing. The Fisher Body tag is attached to the body assembly at Fisher Body, before it gets to final assembly. That's what I wasn't realizing. So now here is another question. Is it possible that there were Fisher operations that Oldsmobile was going to do, and the tag was sent with the body to be attached by Oldsmobile once those operations were complete? Probably not likely. Is it possible the tag is post-dated so that all the records keeping matches up? Would that matter? Would Fremont do things differently than Lansing(I can't imagine)? On my wagon, the Fisher tag says 12D, the blue door placard says 01-70, and the broadcast card says 1-05. It's a 70, maybe the order of things was different than they were in 67.

I'm not going to buy this car, but I'm keeping track of all the information I can on the 67s so maybe someday that one car will come along and I'll know exactly what I'm looking at. Maybe I should go back to the 100 year old car thing and forget about a 6/21 build.

 

Allan, - ROFLMAO! I agree wholeheartedly. I had to learn English, I'd have gotten the crap beat out of me if I went to school speaking only German. The funny thing is though, I spent most of Grade 1 translating for a kid who was born here who only spoke German, and he used to get the crap beat out of him regularly. Those were different times. It will soon come to pass that speaking English will become a crime. I'll stop there.
Besides the bacon fat idea, I think the City of Edmonton allows some livestock, not sure if it allows pigs though, County of Strathcona doesn't. Just doing a neighborhood bacon fry-off contest will keep them away for a while. Either that or post a sign on your lawn stating that your house is the local branch office for the UN War Crimes Tribunal. You'll never see them out in the daylight again.
So do you or Ken do any of the local car shows? I might put a car in at the Church on 99th's Father's Day Event. I guess it's over at Argyl and 75th now. I've done the Rockin' August one in St. Albert, and the one that happens here in the Park at the church on Whye Road. Might take the Wildcat to them and see if there's any interest in the car. The Electra is more of a driver and I prefer to use it as one and it doesn't show well.

The whole story behind cowl tags and build sheets sounds interesting, and is a bit confusing. Just following along....

 

Thanks norm, my web guy is working on it

 

Good morning everyone,

I was awakened by the neighbors gate banging in the breeze so I had to go out and latch it. Now I guess there's no way to catch a few more zzzz's. They just don't get it. I've explained to them that when it doesn't get latched and it's windy that noise is directly outside my bedroom and it disturbs me. Well they have another soccer ball in my yard again so we'll see how long it takes me to give it back....

Round Robin play at the Champions cup wound up yesterday evening. Local kid from Edmonton (Brenden Bottcher) is sharing the top of the standings with Niklas Edin (Sweden). My 2 favorite teams! Yaaay!!!

Doesn't look like an outside day today. Some of that snow that Dan and Greg were talking about somehow found a sideroad into Edmonton. Fluffy white crap coming down but it won't last. Good thing I put down some fertilizer yesterday. I prefer Scott's 30-0-3. It seems to work so well. There's a few places in the back yard it looks like I might need to put some lime as well.

Mike - Going back to your questions
Good answer. Reason is that Fisher Body Works was responsible not only for cobbling the body together, but also painting it and installing the interior. The paint code and some interior options were stamped onto the cowl tag before it left FBW. Back in 67, they still used a 5 column standard for describing options, which were listed as 'letters'. eg: A 442 would get a letter V in column 5. That completed unit would not need anything else done except the final assembly. I can not imagine a completed body being sent for final production because the cowl tag was used as a reference for the final assembly build sheet. Here's a generic example of the cowl tag and format for accessories.



Records will always match up in regards to the build. The cowl tag only has a generic build week, whereas the build sheet has a specific date the car was on final assembly. It is very possible to have the final assembly more than a week after the Fisher plant shipped it, but not possible to have a build sheet showing the final production before the car was shipped from FBW to final assembly. The only thing that Fremont did differently as far as I'm aware, is leave build sheets in their cars. There might be other small nuances, but nothing to explain the discrepancy on that 442 vert. I have heard that some plants like Arlington and Fremont did have body shells built waiting for interiors, paint and emblems but I can't remember where I read that. Lansing didn't do that to my knowledge as they were always busy.

That's really strange and I can't give you a definitive answer. The 12D is consistent with the last week in December. I can speculate that due to the proximity of Christmas and New Years that things got backed up a bit at the FBW where the car was built and it didn't roll out to final assembly till Jan 5/70. Best I can do for you Mike. If you look at a 1969 and 1970 Calendar side by side, you'll see what I mean. Factor out Dec 25/26 as production dates, lose the weekends, lose Jan 1 and it's possible that the car didn't finish at FBW till the 5th. I know that Lansing FBW would crank out a completed body in 4 days, and that was working weekends. Fremont wasn't as high a production plant for Olds, so the pace there might have been slower. Keep in mind that the 12D means production started (and that could be as little as the body was scheduled at FBW with nothing actually being done before quitting time) at any given time of any given day of the week. There were never any records that show what time the car was built. The 1-05 is perplexing though because that's more an indicator of day body production actually started. My 72 started production at FBW on April 7, 1972 and was shipped to Lansing final assembly on April 10 where it rolled off the production line the same day. It's not a highly optioned car so likely it was very easy for FBW to install a base interior and get it out the door.

I went to that Fathers Day show last year - It's the old Nicholson Chev Olds lot and dome. What a gong show! There were some nice cars there but the crowds were insane and lots of touchy feely people there, plus a lot of parents with young children who didn't control them and they would make you cringe if they were around your car. I went to one in the Park back in 2011 and it wasn't that great - maybe about 15 cars and we ended up leaving early. Can't remember exactly where it was though. I might try to get out to the Rockin August one, and have plans to get to the Rocket Roundup this year. Are you planning to drive down there to have a look? It's an exclusive Olds only event; and the best showing I can remember was in 2012 when there were around 80 cars.

 

Mike - One other thing about the blue door sticker. It was put on the car at final assembly. As you know the cowl tag and VIN (which is what's on the door sticker) are not related. Hence, the door sticker is not related to Fisher production.

 

I have to agree, if you move to another country, learn the language. WHY WOULD"T YOU? I mean, I most certainly would, it's how you learn to interact, how to communicate for crying out loud. A friend who was an eng. for Sealed Power ( before Dana & Mahle), took a position in France. His boss told him "learn French", he did, then Spanish, went he took the same position in Spain. I believe that he is working on German now, as he is an account sales manager for the Schaeffler Group. Mike, I would describe Ivory as maybe an antique white. Not bad when paired with a red interior. I did see a '68 442 online a couple of years ago that was Ivory with a parchment top and gold interior. looked really nice.

 

Good Evening Guys:
Not a lot going on here today. Went to a car show in the adjacent city (Garland) today. It is a neat show in downtown around the square with some very nice cars there. There were two black 57 Chevy convertibles and at least 3 maybe 4 black hardtops. All were nice cars. Only one was a restoration with 2 4's and a power glide. I didn't place and really didn't expect to based on the level of cars there. The weather was in the 80's but a little windy. MY wife came and joined me which was really nice. I think the highlight of the day was when some little lady came up and motioned to my carhop tray and told me she used to use those when she was a carhop in Chicago. I asked if she used roller skates and she said no because the parking lot was gravel. Stuff like that is what car shows are all about. I told her she needed her picture made with the carhop tray and she got her husband to take one. I bought the carhop tray online for about $100 and people love the thing. I think it is photographed more than the car. That is about all from my neck of the woods this afternoon. Hope all you guys have a good afternoon.

Glenn

 

Hi everyone.

Interesting day. My friend picked me up early and after a quick stop at the Awful house we went up to get my truck. He left me as the mechanic wanted to go over some things and we ended up talking for about 4 hours, about everything but the truck. He's a great guy, a little younger than me, has a lot of the same types of stories as me. I could hang with that guy just like a buddy.

After that I went to see a convertible Mustang. I was supposed to see it later in the evening but he texted just when I got home and asked if I could come sooner. Sure. I had figured out what I wanted to pay for it and had the whole deal thought out in my head. Got there, turns out I was texting with a high school kid. The dad comes out, he's a B717 pilot, nice guy, the car is not what I had hoped and passed on it. Stopped at the Awful house on the way home. Dropped the pickup and trailer off at the shop just as it was getting dark, got home and I'm beat. Tiger hasn't left my side, he must have missed me today.

Allan all I can figure on my wagon is that they started the body just before New Years, but didn't print the card until they got back, January 5. The date on the blue placard of January 70 lines up with that. I figure that 70 is so popular amongst the A Body Cutlass people I could find out just about anything I wanted. The 67, not quite as much.

So Glenn the same thing happens with Camaro's and Mustangs. The other cars don't win because, "they aren't Camaro's and Mustangs." Yawn.

Marc I hate that the car has to go to the crusher. But I think you're right, every time you look at it you'll be reminded about the goings on and you'll just end up resenting it. If you were closer...

Been beautiful all day. Nice out tonight. Gonna stay up late, sleep in, do whatever tomorrow. Early night though because Monday starts at 4am. I ain't worried about that yet. Hope everyone is enjoying their weekend.

 

Mike - Mustang....what year? Shelby, Boss 302, Boss 429, Cobra, GT, Mach I? Inquiring minds want to know.