I've heard/read same. Honestly, it's a toss of the coin. There are literally thousands (likely closer to hundreds of thousands) of varieties of Dayliies & their origin (while native to the Himalayan regions of Asia) in North America has always been debated & remains so to this day. The orange Daylily does great in roadside ditches; yet, again it's origin in color alone has long been debated. If someone wants to consider the orange "ditch lily" so be it, really. And, to be clear it is NOT a true Lily, it's a Daylily - entirely different plant spp.

 

Yes, that's a good method. The only thing not to do is supplement the soil w/ any type of fertilizer as any form can easily burn the bulbs in a transplant scenario. So, no fertilizer.

 

This conversation is interesting & wildly popular among gardeners & horticulturalists. For certain, there are no native Daylilies in N.A. - all originated in Asia & all are hybrids. Daylilies are unrelated to true Lilies. There exist many native true Lilies in N.A.; again, none of which are related to Daylilies. In some respects it's like discussing differences between a Jonquil and a Daffodil. I think they named the genus correctly (Narcissus) - LOL.

 

This is very good to know too. When I buy a bag or two of potting soil I will make sure it is not supplemented with added fertilizer!

 

That's probably a good idea; however, most potting soils won't have the concentration of nutrients to harm newly transplanted Daylilies unless the potting soil was specifically supplemented (exactly as you suggested) for things such as Roses & such. Just stay away from "fertilizers" (per se).

 

Norm - To beat this horse some more, the pics below are the type of Lilies that are pervasive along roadsides throughout Missouri, and I suspect what Jim's Uncle's housekeeper was calling "ditch lilies". Here, and many other places, they are identified as Tiger Lilies. My question is are these a variety of true Lilies, or Day Lilies? They are 3 times as tall as my Day Lilies.

 

Six anthers w/ six stamens = a true Lily. Those are true lilies, they are not Daylilies. Daylillies have two anthers but up to six stamens. Additionally, a true Lily will have six petals, as well.

 

Sorta, but not always the spate of a Daylily seldom (if ever) achieves a height of 4' while a true Lily is quite often very tall - most often achieving a height of 4'.

 

By name alone, a Tiger Lily is a true Lily (not a Daylily).

 

Wow Norm, it never ceases to amaze me what a wealth of information you possess! I never knew you had such an in-depth knowledge of Botany! 👍

 

Chris - I'll tell you something. Either I've lost my mind (entirely possible) or many of these supposed horticulturalists (influencers) are total whack jobs. There's just an enormous amount of misinformation regarding Lilies vs Daylilies after my quick on-line review.

Honestly, it appears out of control. One man's water moccasin is another man's cottonmouth...one man's water moccasin is a harmless banded water snake and is not a cottonmouth. It's wild out there I tell ya.

Also, if anyone were to dig up one of those plants...a true Lily has a true "bulb" while a Daylily might look like a bulb (to an unseasoned influencer), Daylilies don't produce a "true" bulb; instead, they develop from tubers (rhizomes).

I may have lost my mind. I've taken botany & plant physiology. My graduate thesis researched the process of double fertilization in Plumbago zeylanica.

Two-Dimensional Electrophoretic Studies of the Proteins and Polypeptides in Mature Pollen Grains and the Male Germ Unit of Plumbago zeylanica

 

I studied FORTRAN IV when it was first released as a native IBM compiler language and wrote programs in FORTRAN, ASCII & COBOL (1970 - 1973). I became fascinated with the degree of scientific research involved creating digital formats which could run computers. Sorta set the pace for critical thinking, I guess. It's interesting to me many programmers have no clue how a numeric digit such as a zero, 0, or the number one, 1, is even defined in programming; yet, as a developer they can write in many various programming languages i.e. Python, C#, Java, C++, etc., etc. All of these 'languages' are no more than an intermediary sets of rules defined by common textual input to define the operation(s) of a zero, 0, or a one, 1. Less surprising is many programmers have no clue how to define a zero, 0, or a one, 1. Each is nothing more than a mere electrical impulse, but how you define the electrical impulse is what matters most. Several unique methods to define a zero, 0, and/or a one, 1. I mean in H.S. I was the guy who pithed the frogs for biology class since most were too squeamish.

 

This is exactly why I asked you! I do not possess enough knowledge to sort out the truth from the bull$hit on the interweb in regard to this topic. My formal education of Botany consisted of only one class, one semester of Highschool Botany when I was a Freshman in 1974. I don't know why I don't remember much of it, it was only 52-years ago??? 🤣

 

Ha, computer science, funny you should mention a scientific discipline that I know even less about than Botany! I had zero interest in it back in the late 70's/early 80's when I was in undergrad. After the fact, I wish I had..

Also funny (odd) you brought up pithing frogs. I loved Biology. In Highschool I was the only Sophomore in Advanced Biology among a class full of Juniors/Seniors. I did my Class Biology/Science Fair Project on the observed effects of a variety of drugs on pithed frogs that were dissected to expose the heart, and then a tiny drop of the drug in question was applied directly to the heart, and observations were recorded in regard to effects on respiration and heart rate. People freaked out, but I won 1st Place at the Science Fair. Fun times!

 

I'll say this about that. There's enormous confusion regarding. Some of this confusion results from people who call themselves experts in the field yet are no more than backyard gardeners turned authorities (influencers). They couldn't tell you the difference between a petal, a sepal, a bract, an anther, a stamen, a pistol, a style or a carpel; and, those are the rudimentary basics of plant morphology. I've witnessed folks calling the white bracts of a Dogwood tree the flowers. Dogwood tree flowers are tiny little flowers in the center(s) of the large white "bracts" of a Dogwood. The white color is a bract - it is not a flower (at all).

To add to confusion, if you look at the thousands of varieties of plants, nearly all ornamental plants are mere hybrids which have lost any commonality with their parental genome (stock) - the Daylily is a great example of this confusion; yet, most don't stop to consider even the true Lily has been hybridized over thousands of years resulting in more confusion. Heck, you ever seen a double whorled Daylily. Some folks get all goo goo w/ Double Daylilies. They resemble a peony more than a Daylily. Some whack job at some point crossed some Daylilies which produced double floral arrays (e.g. double stamens, double petal, etc.) and though (Oh heavens...isn't this awesome). Not so much. Flowering plants (Angiosperms) have enormous cross pollination & hybridization potential unlike the Gymnosperms. Dollars to Donuts most plant enthusiasts can't tell you the difference between a Gymnosperm and an Angiosperm; yet they're an authority on Daylilies, Petunias, Peonies, Roses, Begonias...............................

 

Ah...yeah, that's a great Science Fair project. Freaks them all out, eh?

 

I nearly got weedwhacked by CS101 in 2000. It was the first year of C++ instead of FORTRAN. I got the fundamentals, but the programming needed more bugging. At my work, the engineers are gatekept by not really allowing them time or capability to learn PLC programming. Fortunately, through sheer expansion through a parallel system, I now have IS contacts, spare computers, and spare PLCs to learn. I do think programmers would benefit from ladder logic and 24V I/O work.

 

People are generally either concrete (they only believe what they visualize in physical reality) or abstract (grasp the notions of ideas and/or concepts). Many (hopefully) graduate from concrete thought process to abstract thought processed via developmental learning concepts. The theory was primarily developed from the founder Jean Piaget. This cognitive development sequence arises from the contrasting thought processes of assimilation (fitting new information into existing schemas) and accommodation (changing existing schemas and/or creating new ones when new information doesn't fit).

Covalent bonds vs. Ionic bonds. One of the most difficult concepts for chemistry students to accommodate. A solution is a homogeneous mixture where one or more substances (solutes) are uniformly dissolved in another substance (solvent). Example: Sugar dissolved in water or salt dissolved in water. Both yield a clear solution but only one is capable of transferring electricity. Sugar(s) are made of covalent bonds, while salts are made of ionic bonds. Salts (ions) dissolved in solution defines and electrolyte - capable of transferring electricity because salts are comprised of disassociated ions.

Two containers of (de-ionized) water and two containers of white crystals on the table with a simple light bulb with two probes attached - a normal simple light bulb. Ask the students which will cause the light bulb to illuminate when placing placing either white crystal into the water. Dump in the sugar, insert the light bulb = nothing happens. Dump in the salt, insert the light bulb = lamp illuminates. Ask them which solution is comprised of covalent bonds and which is comprised of ionic bonds. You can smell the hair burning from the heads of the students who just moved from accommodation>assimilation. An awesome learning tool in chemistry labs. They generally walk-away with a solid understanding of an electrolyte, a far better understanding of ions and the delta between covalent bonds vs. ionic bonds.

 

Absolutely, yet many of them have little regard for learning that logic, unfortunately. I think most have no concept of what defines binary logic.

 

I enjoy the concepts of ladder logic and PLC yet if I had to work in a 24V I/O environment I'd go bonkers. An endless assortment of noodles used in the creation of a fine Italian cuisine.

 

I didn't watch the Knicks/Cavs game last night but read/saw Taylor & Kelce were 1st row court side. I think many don't give two $hits about Taylor, but I think she's worth of a squirt.

I thought I'd dial in some entertainment very late (11pm) last night. Watched two hours of Kill Bill: The Lost Chapter: Yuki's Revenge. In the past I've watched the prior Kill Bill movies & thought this would be entertaining; well, it is.

No ice cream, no pie, no cake & no treats. Quick dash to the store then return to finish Kill Bill.

 

I ditched the store idea. Walked outdoors & convinced myself there are two many whack-a-doodles on the roads towing boats & such & I don't really want to be involved with any of them. Took a tub of coffee yogurt out of the fridge, added some honey + pecans, instead. Time to Kill Bill.

 

I always enjoyed the "Kill Bill" movies, but I haven't seen the one you mentioned. I'll have to look for it.

I've been watching the NHL Semi-finals every night, they are in a schedule where each pairing has been playing every other day. The Canadians and Hurricanes are on tonight with the series tied 1-1. I can't believe the Avalanche are now down to the Golden Knights 3-0 after losing.last night. The Avalanche were up 3-0 after the 1st Period and then totally collapsed. In their defense, their superstar Nathan MacKinnon went down late in the 2nd Period after getting hit square in the knee trying to block a slapshot. He tried to come back in the game a couple of times but was totally ineffective, couldn't even hardly skate. Bad deal when you lose this year's NHL leader in goals scored!

 

I believe it was released last fall (2025).

Regarding MacKinnon - Yeah, well, that's hockey. I remain appreciative of him missing the net during the Olympics to provide the USA w/ their win.

 

It is sultry outdoors ~90% humidity. Can't recall the length of this Bill Kill movie I believe it's like 5 hours in length. It was released to the networks fall of last year, the movie itself was released in 2004. I honestly can't recall if I've watched this movie - I may have. There are many scenes which I know I've seen before, but some which I know I haven't. I guess this movie is a sort of compendium of Kill Bill 1, Kill Bill 2 and new(er) stuff in this new(er) one? Don't know but it's entertaining.

 

I'll look for the movie!

Yes, I can tell you it sure didn't break my heart to see him miss in the Olympics.

 

The net was wide open…how messed up is that then his whimpering about it all saying how they played exceptional hockey. Really.

 

Tarantino was better when he was poor and unknown. He really goes downhill after Kill Bill because no one is keeping the reigns on him anymore, and he fetishes black people and Jews. Dude has mad white guilt or something, I dunno. I enjoy his stuff when it's not political, but that kind of ended after Kill Bill. I really like Jackie Brown, but no one else seems to do so.

It rained yesterday so I did housework. Today, I went by Menards and bought some more all thread for my stereo rack and a couple more water jugs. Forgot my hat, so I bought a stupid boonie that is too small, and commenced to yard work at the new place. Standard 3 hours mow the yards and the berm house roof and dick with the trailer, this time to bring the small rider and the push mower back to the house. Everything is sitting on the driveway, so I will TRY to get up early and beat the rain tomorrow AM to get it all under cover.

The Ventrac dealer noticed my wall and said I could probably work on it there, so I stood the deck out like that to check. I need tall jack stands. Seems like the warranty issue of fogging gauge cluster is known and not cared about, which I thought was odd. My dirt and snow blade is now in at the dealer, I will get it in a few weeks. I need to clean the deck, no time today. 30 hours on the machine now. Hydraulic whined a bit today in one motion, but was fine without the deck later.

 

Woulda, shoulda, coulda . . . guess it wasn't exceptional enough.

 

THE BEAST is alive and feasting!

 

Sorry, sometimes I post picture from phone and then edit with text from PC thereafter.

 

No need to be sorry, I just think it's a cool picture! 👍

 

I haven't watched Jackie Brown - not sure I will. I did watch Reservoir Dogs & Pulp Fiction when each was 1st released, I thought both were stellar.

The Ventrac...

Is there a H2O attachment for cleaning the mower via blade(s) rotation(s)?

 

Same here - Haven't seen Jackie Brown, love Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. I really like the cast of Pulp Fiction. I'll re-watch Pulp Fiction every couple of years because I like it so much.

 

Same since I own the DVD.

 

I think his best were his three hood movies. Kill Bill is not bad.

Norm, there is no cleanout on it. There are five blades on that one. All the mower decks can tilt, most have a hydraulic tilt unit accessory available, and I got it for this one. I do a lot of hooking and unhooking the lines, but it is good to have it lift it and not you. The bush hog attachment must be lifted via hoist, and I have a couple of those to do it. I will clean it well at the end of the season and lube. I need a grease cutter that is ok on paint.

 

Good morning guys,

Overcast here and a moderate chance of a few showers here this morning with a high of around 80°.

I wasn't really doing anything yesterday afternoon, it was pretty out, and I hadn't driven the 4-4-2 in 3-weeks so I decided to take it out for a little exercise. It fired right up and ran well with no issues. It was fun just to get it out for a drive. The car has an aftermarket set of oil pressure/temp/voltmeter gauges below the dash that I monitor closely, and all were reading in the normal ranges when I was out. Got home and put it away, remembering to reconnect it to the Battery Maintainer. The Battery Maintainer should, and did, go to "Yellow" when I first turned it on, and I swear I saw that it had went to "Green" later in the evening when I was out in the garage for something. Got up this morning and it was back to "Yellow". Checked the purchase date sticker on the battery, it's October 2022. I'm sure the battery is probably going bad. I disconnected the Maintainer and then reconnected it just in case I had a bad connection. I'll check it again here in a few hours and see what the status is. It's a Walmart brand EverStart standard 800 CCA battery, so at 3.5-years old it's probably gone bad. Crap!

Gabe has his last Spring 4-on-4 hockey game tonight that I'm going to.

Hope everyone has a great day! 😃

Add on - I forgot to mention it's Maggie's b-day today, she's 8!

 

John - Thanks for the follow-up. Just curious (once again) mostly since I can't remember or I didn't think to look that far when you made the purchase & I was noodling about on-line reviewing, but is the bush hog a direct drive PTO, PTO which turns a driveshaft which engages blades. Same w/ the mower. Is the mower a direct drive PTO or merely an assemblage of pulleys & belts? I love that wicked piece of machinery.

 

Thinking back on Reservoir Dogs. Ya know, that's one of the movies I recall watching in which just prior to falling to sleep that night or several nights & ya think of having your ear cut off & five gallons of gasoline dumped over your head - that was gruesome, truly gruesome.

 

I have the larger (metal) Battery Tender model. Has never failed me, but I'd go bonkers if I were to watch the thing bounce between yellow & green for a 12 hour or daily period of time. Sometimes it's simply "maintaining" the battery during those cycles (I think) and goes yellow then green back & forth type thing. I'd have to look at the very specific specifications/instructions again. It could be the battery is getting weak(er) and more difficult to maintain. I wouldn't use the battery maintainer/tender as any form of battery health/evaluation though, I'd hookup a DMM and measure the battery both running at idle and not running, that'll tell you what you want to know.