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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 05:17 AM
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"This is a real 442 car not a clone."

Not mine. At least No Reserve. Enjoy!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1966-Oldsmo...9cujAc&vxp=mtr
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 06:47 AM
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sorry, no enjoyment here. lol
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 06:48 AM
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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 07:17 AM
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That poor thing, someone shoot it and put it out of it's misoury!
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Run to Rund
sorry, no enjoyment here. lol
Indeed.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 07:24 AM
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That poor thing, someone shoot it and put it out of it's misoury!
Hell, put it out of my misery.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 07:47 AM
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Like the 400 big block it has... lol
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:06 AM
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Can someone help me out here, because I thought no 442 ever came from the factory with a 2 speed auto trans. Asking for a friend.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:26 AM
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Through the 1967 model year, the 4-4-2 with automatic transmission came with a beefed-up 2-speed jetaway. Starting with the 1968 model year, the automatic transmission for the 4-4-2 model came with the turbo-hydramatic 400 3-speed transmission. Somewhere along the line after that I believe starting in the 1972 model year), the 4-4-2 came with the THM 350.

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Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:33 AM
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If I remember correctly......1964 advertising was 4-4-2..........4 Barrel carb-4 Speed-2 (dual exhaust)
1965 advertising changed to 4-4-2.......4 Barrel carb-4 Hundred Cubes (engine)-2 (dual exhaust). And I recall the 2 speed automatic being available
So, I would expect 1966 to follow through
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 10:06 AM
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I thought they went with the TH400 when it was available in 65, but I guess that didn't happen until 67.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by rcorrigan5
Through the 1967 model year, the 4-4-2 with automatic transmission came with a beefed-up 2-speed jetaway.
Actually, only the 65-66 442s were available with the HD Jetaway. The TH400 was available in the A-body cars starting with the 1967 model year.

And of course, 64s were four speed only, except for a notorious yellow "special order" convertible...
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 11:30 AM
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The 67 442 did indeed come with either a switch pitch TH400 or a 4 speed, and possibly a 3 on the column as the cheap option.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Koda
The 67 442 did indeed come with either a switch pitch TH400 or a 4 speed, and possibly a 3 on the column as the cheap option.
Once again, read the factory documents like the SPECS booklet. Base trans in the 442 from 1965 to 1971 was the HD three speed with Hurst floor shifter. This was the Dearborn top loader through 1969 and the HD Muncie three speed after that. Four speeds and AT were available options. The three on the column was a rare configuration used in the 1965 model year only.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 12:16 PM
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I'm *** deep in house cleaning, so I'll check it later. That's why I said "possibly" because I wasn't sure.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Once again, read the factory documents like the SPECS booklet. Base trans in the 442 from 1965 to 1971 was the HD three speed with Hurst floor shifter. This was the Dearborn top loader through 1969 and the HD Muncie three speed after that. Four speeds and AT were available options. The three on the column was a rare configuration used in the 1965 model year only.
The 66 442 3 speed column shift Dearborn Phord was available in the 66 model year but was dropped for 67.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
The 66 442 3 speed column shift Dearborn Phord was available in the 66 model year but was dropped for 67.
Really? I've seen the documentation for the 1965 model year, but not for 66.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
Really? I've seen the documentation for the 1965 model year, but not for 66.
Yes it sure was. I had one and now is in Curt Anderson's collection. I know of one other 3 on the tree 442 with the Dearborn. Both were Club Coupes. I think it was the M-12 option,not sure but that's my memory.
Old Apr 20, 2019 | 11:09 PM
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Somewhere along the line after that I believe starting in the 1972 model year), the 4-4-2 came with the THM 350.
The 350 came with the THM350, the 455 came with the THM400.
Old Apr 21, 2019 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by 66-3X2 442
Yes it sure was. I had one and now is in Curt Anderson's collection. I know of one other 3 on the tree 442 with the Dearborn. Both were Club Coupes. I think it was the M-12 option,not sure but that's my memory.
I just checked the 1966 Inspector's Guide. It's actually RPO M13 for the column shifted HD three speed, and the guide clearly shows "mandatory and available only with L77 or L78 options if SM col shift is ordered." L78 is the 442 package and L77 is the 400 cu in police package motor for A-body cars. I stand corrected. Good catch.
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Old Apr 22, 2019 | 11:25 AM
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My father bought new, and I still have the original paperwork on his 1965 3spd floor shifted 442.. Just an fyi..
Old Apr 22, 2019 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by 1arunem
My father bought new, and I still have the original paperwork on his 1965 3spd floor shifted 442.. Just an fyi..
The availability of the three speed with Hurst floor shifter in the 65 442 is well documented. No one is questioning that.


Old Apr 22, 2019 | 12:22 PM
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Ad could be worse

I'm surprised it doesn't say "but it does have a v8 442 c.i. big block in it."

But this was helpful
" Windshield looks like it was sealed with something."

Better that than not sealed with anything
Old Apr 22, 2019 | 04:05 PM
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Well.....he updated the listing.

1966 Oldsmobile f85 deluxe 442This is a real 442 car not a clone. Car runs and drives. I don’t know if it has the original drivetrain but it does have a v8 400 big block in it. Has 4 barrel Holley carburetor.I don’t know much about the cars history. In the pictures you can see the cars condition. Car does have some rust showed most of it in the pictures. The floor pans don’t look to have rust on them. Has American racing aluminum wheels. Car has 88,916 original miles. I do have a clean title in hand. This car does not have a reserve so bid it to win it!Any questions feel free to give me a call 6094189770

On Apr-21-19 at 15:56:35 PDT, seller added the following information:

After some further investigation I’m not sure if it’s a real 442 or if it’s a clone. Has Chevy small block in it so it is not a big block. The car is being sold as is where is. Any questions feel free to give me a call 6094189770
Old Apr 22, 2019 | 07:59 PM
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The vin# is 336176, and the dash plaque says F85.
I dont believe thats a 442 VIN
Old Apr 22, 2019 | 11:48 PM
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"After some further investigation"........ how far did he have to get to spot a Chebby water pump ? Ray Charles or Stevie Wonder could have seen it.
Old Apr 23, 2019 | 06:21 AM
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Originally Posted by steverw
The vin# is 336176, and the dash plaque says F85.
I dont believe thats a 442 VIN
It could have been. There was no unique 442 VIN in 1966.

Of course, the lack of a 442 dash emblem, the non-442 tail lights, and a host of other problems prove that it is not real, but the VIN isn't one of those. Now, had he posted a photo of the cowl tag...
Old Apr 23, 2019 | 08:04 AM
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At this point IDK if it matters if its a 442 or not. Its so bastardized its not worth restoring even if it is
Old Apr 24, 2019 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
The availability of the three speed with Hurst floor shifter in the 65 442 is well documented. No one is questioning that.



Didn't say anyone was, it was simply an FYI or FWIW...
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