Vacuum advance recommendations please

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 03:41 PM
  #1  
JPinAZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 161
Vacuum advance recommendations please

We have the 455 running after the 1977 260 swap. The vacuum advance is shot. What brands are you using? Looking for something that works well and is easily adjustable. We are running the 260 OE distributor, would it be better to replace the distributor? We don't need a high tech distributor or something new from China. I am not sure I trust off the shelf rebuilt. TIA
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 04:52 PM
  #2  
Fun71's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2013
Posts: 15,431
From: Phoenix, AZ
I'd say keep the original GM distributor and install an adjustable vacuum advance canister. My car has the vacuum canister that came with the GM HEI that's from a 77-79 403 engine - originally 24º vacuum advance, but I made a stop and set it to 10º vacuum advance.

Last edited by Fun71; Aug 20, 2021 at 04:55 PM.
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 05:55 PM
  #3  
matt69olds's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,112
From: central Indiana

If the 260 distributor is in good condition, it will work just fine once calibrated for the 455.

This is the adjustable valve advance with the limiting cam. Get the initial, centrifugal advance, and ignition curve dialed in before messing with the vacuum advance. Once you have the initial/total/etc is set up to where the engine is happy, don’t mess with it, adjust the vacuum advance to work with the setup you have.

For example, once you have the advance rate perfected, and the engine is happy WITHOUT the vacuum advance, and you find it pings and rattles once it’s connected, you need to reduce the amount of advance the canister provides. If it rattles and pings as you crowd the throttle, then stops, you need to play around with the setscrew in the canister vacuum hose neck. The setscrew adjusts the spring tension and the amount of vacuum needed to get the advance to move.

Modt engines like 10-15 degrees initial timing, another 20-25ish centrifugal advance, and another 10-15 vacuum advance.

Old Aug 20, 2021 | 06:41 PM
  #4  
gs72's Avatar
72Cutlass S
 
Joined: Jul 2011
Posts: 1,201
From: Bakersfield, CA
Or… if you are serious of getting this thing dialed in. Get one of these. Old school isn’t always better.

https://progressionignition.com/

Old Aug 21, 2021 | 05:55 PM
  #5  
Tj Pal's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 1,005
From: WNY
If that distributor works as well as it says, it’s probably worth the money!
Old Aug 21, 2021 | 07:29 PM
  #6  
matt69olds's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Jan 2010
Posts: 6,112
From: central Indiana
Originally Posted by gs72
Or… if you are serious of getting this thing dialed in. Get one of these. Old school isn’t always better.

https://progressionignition.com/
cant argue, that looks pretty slick!!
Old Aug 22, 2021 | 03:47 PM
  #7  
cfair's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 2,269
From: Northern California
Give this a read. After doing so, I added a non-Olds fixed advanced can to my ‘66’s with big blocks. I believe it was a Buick for HEI.

https://www.460ford.com/threads/timi...gineer.117504/

I didn’t have good luck with adjustable, I fiddled with various home fixes to limit the travel and so on, but ultimately concluded I wanted less advance and got there with factory (non-Olds) parts.

Chris
Old Aug 23, 2021 | 05:31 AM
  #8  
olds 307 and 403's Avatar
Out of Line, Everytime😉
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 10,129
From: Melville, Saskatchewan
Yeah, a few have had issue with the aftermarket vacuum advance failing. Mine have held up fine, years old. The aftermarket ones put out 20 degrees and easily adjust with an Allen key. All the factory ones I have are 30 degree units, the 24 would have worked great with my 9 to 1 350.
Old Aug 23, 2021 | 12:24 PM
  #9  
JPinAZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 161
Originally Posted by gs72
Or… if you are serious of getting this thing dialed in. Get one of these. Old school isn’t always better.

https://progressionignition.com/
That is very cool.
Old Aug 23, 2021 | 12:28 PM
  #10  
JPinAZ's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Sep 2020
Posts: 161
Originally Posted by cfair
Give this a read. After doing so, I added a non-Olds fixed advanced can to my ‘66’s with big blocks. I believe it was a Buick for HEI.

https://www.460ford.com/threads/timi...gineer.117504/

I didn’t have good luck with adjustable, I fiddled with various home fixes to limit the travel and so on, but ultimately concluded I wanted less advance and got there with factory (non-Olds) parts.

Chris
Thank you.
Old Aug 26, 2021 | 04:52 PM
  #11  
McIntosh's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 60
From: VT
I like the adjustable vac advance unit too. I found the original (HEI) had too much advance. I agree, ten degrees is about all I wanted from my vac advance. After I had mine adjusted to a total of about 38 degrees (12 base, 16 mechanical, 10 vacuume) I found that I had spark knock at mild throttle positions under light exeleration. Turned out the mechanical advance springs were too light and I was getting too much advance too early. The kit matt69olds posted looks like it has everything I needed in one kit.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
FStanley
General Discussion
2
Mar 11, 2019 12:24 PM
ReallyWildStuff
Big Blocks
4
Aug 22, 2017 06:35 AM
3g87xm
General Discussion
6
Dec 2, 2016 04:45 PM
Octania
Big Blocks
0
Dec 14, 2013 08:34 AM
airlamb
Big Blocks
2
Jan 25, 2010 10:09 AM




All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:10 AM.