Endangered Species: hyd roller lifters ?

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Old June 25th, 2021 | 07:02 AM
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Endangered Species: hyd roller lifters ?

Geez, seems impossible to find a new set of morel hyd roller lifters under any brand. I ordered set in April and date just keeps getting pushed back. Just notified it’s now gonna be in september but i wont be surprised if that gets pushed again.

Old June 25th, 2021 | 03:43 PM
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I wouldn’t wait till Sept for Morel lifters, they ain’t that great. There are others available right now.
Old June 25th, 2021 | 04:10 PM
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Do tell. I’m wide open to lifter suggestions. I’m not married the morels and can easily cancel the order.
Old June 25th, 2021 | 06:43 PM
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First choice is Topline-Hylift. Next would be Comp.
Old June 25th, 2021 | 07:25 PM
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Its not just lifters. A lot of things are very hard to find right now. And like the others have said I personally think the Morels are a little over rated. And they are about the most arrogant people on earth to deal with
Old June 27th, 2021 | 09:59 AM
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Morel lifters work just fine for me, and I have plenty in stock.
Old June 27th, 2021 | 12:29 PM
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Morel lifters work just fine for me, and I have plenty in stock.
I’m guessing you’re referring to their better BBC lifter correct? They make at least two different ones for BBC in case you didn’t know.
And you have a bunch of Olds Hyd rollers in stock?
Old June 27th, 2021 | 12:53 PM
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I used to have Morels, switched to these with the last build.
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Old June 27th, 2021 | 03:32 PM
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Those are Morels too. They private label for EVERYBODY.
Old June 27th, 2021 | 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
those are morels too. They private label for everybody.
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Old June 27th, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by cutlassefi
I’m guessing you’re referring to their better BBC lifter correct? They make at least two different ones for BBC in case you didn’t know.
And you have a bunch of Olds Hyd rollers in stock?
They (Morel) actually make 3 different versions of BBC HYD roller lifters. I've had good luck compared to other builds getting the 455 Olds to peak @ a higher RPM and carry power further past peak HP, Morel lifters were part of my design....

Heres an example of what I'am talking about:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-build-149649/

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Old June 28th, 2021 | 08:31 AM
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Originally Posted by VORTECPRO
They (Morel) actually make 3 different versions of BBC HYD roller lifters. I've had good luck compared to other builds getting the 455 Olds to peak @ a higher RPM and carry power further past peak HP, Morel lifters were part of my design....

Heres an example of what I'am talking about:

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-build-149649/
Like I said, at least two.
And any lifter will die if you don’t have the flow to support the desired power. It’s a total package as you know.
So you have multiple sets of Olds Hyd rollers in stock? If so have at it guys.
Old June 28th, 2021 | 03:30 PM
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Anyone have any experience with Ruben roller hydraulic lifters? I have a knocking when my 1969 400 gets up to operating temperature but only above around 3,000 RPM. It sounds a lot like a lifter. The rebuilt engine (Mondello short block) has only around 10K miles on it. The previous owner had the engine rebuilt and I have no paperwork. I just pulled off the intake yesterday. Is it common to have a "dead" hydraulic lifter that creates a fairly loud knocking at higher rpms? Just wondering about the reputation of these Ruben lifters. Thanks.

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Old July 6th, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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Johnson lifters are US made and top quality.

https://hotrodenginetech.com/why-joh...n-your-engine/
Old July 7th, 2021 | 07:24 AM
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What are Ruben lifters? Might just be a private labeled Morel......
Old July 7th, 2021 | 07:25 AM
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Hey Mark, has Hylift actually shipped any lifters yet this year?
Old July 7th, 2021 | 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by MartinH
Anyone have any experience with Ruben roller hydraulic lifters? I have a knocking when my 1969 400 gets up to operating temperature but only above around 3,000 RPM. It sounds a lot like a lifter. The rebuilt engine (Mondello short block) has only around 10K miles on it. The previous owner had the engine rebuilt and I have no paperwork. I just pulled off the intake yesterday. Is it common to have a "dead" hydraulic lifter that creates a fairly loud knocking at higher rpms? Just wondering about the reputation of these Ruben lifters. Thanks.
Martin,

I am rebuilding a 425 right now that is almost the same identical story except that the engine was not done by Mondello. My customer only recently purchased the car. He brought it by the shop for me to listen to and it sounded an awful lot like a valve train noise but it turned out it was getting ready to spin a rod bearing.

If you do a search on "Ruben Lifters" you might see some more information. I have never heard of them myself.

I would suggest that before you run yours any longer you take the oil filter off and drain it through some clean white paper towels and then cut it open and look at the filter element. Any type of metal in it means that it is time to take it apart.
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Hey Mark, has Hylift actually shipped any lifters yet this year?
Yes, I have three sets of A-2347’s sitting on the shelf, along with two sets of Comp 857-16’s.
Old July 7th, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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Mark, check your messages.
Old July 7th, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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I did, let me see what’s spoken for first.
Velcro said he has lifters in stock. Didn’t anybody ask him for some?
Old July 7th, 2021 | 07:21 PM
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I believe he was willing to check with his contacts in an effort to help find some Olds-specific rollers but didn’t have them on the shelf. I’m very interested if you wanna part with a set…seller’s-market price. Thanks
Old July 7th, 2021 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by grannys442
I believe he was willing to check with his contacts in an effort to help find some Olds-specific rollers but didn’t have them on the shelf. I’m very interested if you wanna part with a set…seller’s-market price. Thanks
He said he had “plenty in stock”. So obviously he was talking about ones for a BBC. As usual he didn’t tell the whole story. The guy needs to go into politics.
I’ll let you know. Thanks.

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Old July 8th, 2021 | 06:56 AM
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So A-2375's availability is still TBD?
Old July 8th, 2021 | 09:26 AM
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So A-2375's availability is still TBD?
They’re out until at least the end of next month.
I’m trying to get them to just make the 2375’s, and discontinue the 2347’s There’s no sense in making both.
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