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Old March 14th, 2019, 09:40 AM
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Couple of 455 block questions

1) this block has various letters stamped in between the cylinders (B, C or CC) any idea of what they indicate? Or is it a possible stamping from a machine shop?

2) There is a bolt/plug on either side of block between motor mount and center freeze plug. What’s that for.

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Old March 14th, 2019, 09:48 AM
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Also, could someone decode it: 38M602417

it had had a Toronado style intake and oil pan.
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Old March 14th, 2019, 10:14 AM
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Yes, this is a 1968 Toro motor. The VIN derivative shows a build sequence number of 602417. Toronado sequence numbers started at 500001, so this is from a Toro.

Unless you know this motor was previously rebuilt, the letters are likely the factory tolerance markings. Olds sized the bores and pistons in one of four size ranges, A through D. The block was sized and the pistons selected to match.

If the "plug" you are referring to is about in line with the bolts for the motor mounts, there are actually two per side (one is under the motor mount). These are just pipe plugs to drain the coolant from the block.
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Old March 14th, 2019, 01:29 PM
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The freeze plug kit came with 2 new plugs. Wasn’t sure if this was where they went or not. Seemed somewhat solid behind them, but I didn’t check much. Just to see if they would come out.

Motor has been rebuilt at some point. It’s .030, but seemed to be a stock cam. It was a junkyard find with a Turbo 400 in a mid-80s GM truck! Chrome valve covers prompted me to take a closer look. Now it’ll be going in my ‘71 Cutlass after slight warming over.
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Old March 14th, 2019, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Jhucks03
Seemed somewhat solid behind them, but I didn’t check much.
That's probably rust build up.

It was a junkyard find with a Turbo 400 in a mid-80s GM truck!
It likely replaced a dead Olds diesel in that truck. This was pretty common then.

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Old March 27th, 2019, 08:54 AM
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I have a 69 Cutlass S conv. A previous owner put a 455 in it. Casting # 396021Fa. I know that is 72-76. Is there any way to determine which year? The HP varies quite a bit. Judging by other mods they made I assume it was done for more HP so I am hoping it is an early one but have no way of knowing for sure. Help!

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The second character of the VIN derivative is the model year of the block.


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Old March 28th, 2019, 12:47 PM
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Thanks for the help on my question. The # on my block is 33M326554. So that makes it a 73 coeerct? The letterr on the head is G. What does that mean?
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Old March 28th, 2019, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Phoenix8990
Thanks for the help on my question. The # on my block is 33M326554. So that makes it a 73 coeerct? The letterr on the head is G. What does that mean?
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It means that whoever previously worked on that motor had the good sense to replace the original J heads with G heads.
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They put an aluminium intake, larger exhaust, andd it has a bit of a rumble. Maybe a mild cam? What is the difference between the heads, compression ratio?

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Originally Posted by Phoenix8990
They put an aluminium intake, larger exhaust, andd it has a bit of a rumble. Maybe a mild cam? What is the difference between the heads, compression ratio?

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All BBO heads (except D heads) have the same combustion chamber size (80 cc blueprint spec, about 82-84 cc as cast). The J heads were used on 73-76 smog motors and have smaller, more restrictive ports.
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