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Old Jul 30, 2021 | 03:59 PM
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New to forum and Olds 442

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New user here with my first Olds 442…seller swears it’s a real W30..but we all know that story. Most of the required components but none of the documentation otherwise I’d had to pay a lot more. Anyway, this car is sweet inside outside and underneath. Very good restoration on it. I do have one questions that I’m hoping to get some help on. I have a small leak where the speedometer cable goes into the gear housing unit and am looking for information on the correct replacement part(s). I don’t know if it’s better to just buy the rebuild kit with the seals or try to source the entire unit. I’m not sure what tooth ratio to get either. It has a TH400 and is automatic. I’ll also be needing a new speedometer cable as the current one was installed incorrectly and ended up laying down on the exhaust on my 2 1/2 drive home…yep I drove it home. What length would I need?When I drove it home the speedometer showed I was going about 5 mph faster than the app Waze showed me going. Maybe due to oversized tires?



Old Jul 30, 2021 | 04:07 PM
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Welcome to the site, nice car and congrats. I would not even worry about a 5mph error, make a mental note and adjust your speed accordingly.
Old Jul 30, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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Welcome to the group... Sharp looking 442... As for your leak, I believe you can just change the cable seal...
Old Jul 30, 2021 | 04:26 PM
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Yeah I thought that might be the best way to go as a cheap start, not that the part is expensive. I also thought that while I'm at it I might change the tooth gear (not sure of its official name) just to get the MPH reading correctly...but then again oldcutlass said its only 5 MPH. Acceptable margin of error.
Old Jul 30, 2021 | 04:27 PM
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Oh, what about the speedometer cable length? Any idea on that?
Old Jul 30, 2021 | 10:45 PM
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More pictures please. 😁

Man I love that color on an Olds.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by no1oldsfan
More pictures please. 😁

Man I love that color on an Olds.
x2....need more please. great color
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 08:28 AM
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Sorry for the delay. Here are a few more pictures that I just took.





Old Jul 31, 2021 | 08:36 AM
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You have a beautiful car! Enjoy! I have a '67 4-4-2 about the same color.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 08:49 AM
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Thank you. Why wife and I are very fortunate and happy to own it.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 11:46 AM
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Great looking, wonder why the aftermarket AC compressor was installed on the opposite side from factory.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 12:20 PM
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Hello... I have to say. How beautiful is that car in that color with ZERO side stripes? Oldsmobile A body body lines are the sexiest period. Beautiful car. Drive it. Enjoy it. Thanks for sharing.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 03:01 PM
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Thanks no1..I agree, the body lines are awesome!
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 03:29 PM
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Great looking, wonder why the aftermarket AC compressor was installed on the opposite side from factory.

When I installed the Vintage Air on my car they offer brackets to mount the compressor on either side. Seeing how the alternator brackets for a A/C car are easy to find, and there is a market for the pass side alternator brackets, that’s a change I would have made during the installation.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 03:46 PM
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If you go to TCI site, there is a page to calculate speedometer gear tooth counts. You need to know the rear end gear ratio, tire height, and preferably the existing drive or driven gear gear tooth count.

Play around with entering different drive/driven tooth counts until you come up with a combination that has a tooth count as close to a whole number as possible. For example, it may say you need a gear with 33.7 teeth. You can’t get a gear with 33.7 teeth, it will be either 33, or 34. In this example, 34 would be just a bit more accurate than a 33.

As for your speedo housing leak, go to your nearest transmission shop. Those seals are included with every transmission rebuild kit. They aren’t used in transmissions for 4x4 trucks (the speedo gears are in the transfer case for a 4x4) most likely the shop will have a box full of those seals. You can fit 2 of the seals that go inside the speedo housing, the converter be the speedo gear goes thru. Occasionally, you will find the plastic gear stem worn where the seal rides. Adding an extra seal ensures the replacement seal rides on a portion of the year shaft that isn’t worn.
Old Jul 31, 2021 | 07:32 PM
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Please please don't put a wing on it.
Old Aug 1, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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Thank you Matt. I appreciate the info.
Old Aug 1, 2021 | 11:56 AM
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No wing on this 442 for me...
Old Aug 2, 2021 | 05:43 AM
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Very nice looking car, congrats on the new ride. I love that you drove it home!
Old Aug 2, 2021 | 07:42 PM
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Great looking, wonder why the aftermarket AC compressor was installed on the opposite side from factory.
Ignorance of the way it was done, probably.
Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:05 AM
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Robt1970: love your car. i just purchased a gold 1970 442 and after seeing yours I think i will remove my wing! It would be nice to remove my side stipes also. Have fun with it!

Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Koda
Ignorance of the way it was done, probably.
Doesn't matter to me which side its on at this point...it blows cold air all the same.
Old Aug 3, 2021 | 05:13 PM
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Thanks Guinnessman! Lets see what you purchased.
Old Aug 3, 2021 | 06:02 PM
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I swear I've seen that car before!

https://www.oldsmobilecentral.com/fo...-Seattle-3.php

Nice Pro Touring car, once you get the Gear Vendors installed, it will help with the highway cruising RPMs. What gear ratio does it have?

Did the seller say what viscosity oil it runs? Just curious if it's 15w-50 or a 10w-30 or 10w-40 weight synthetic or conventional oil.

Is it carburetor or EFI?

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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 08:05 PM
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Gears are 3.42, Penn Grade 1 SAE 30 and it is carburetorated.
Old Aug 3, 2021 | 08:31 PM
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Gears are 3.42, Penn Grade 1 SAE 30 and it is carburetorated.
Does the engine have an oil pressure gauge that shows the actual oil pressure? I would be curious to see what PSI it has once on a long drive with 30 weight oil.

Typically most Olds 455 engines run larger main bearing clearances due to the large mains and the "flex" of the crank and block from the heavy cast/nodular iron crank, long stroke and 2 bolt mains. Running it "tight" on the mains will give it more oil pressure but at the demise of possibly spinning a main bearing. Bill Trovato likes to see .0035 + on the mains (.0045 to .005 on the rear main), if my memory serves me right, don't have his book in front of me right now. One definitely does not want to run < .0025 main bearing clearances on a stock bottom end 455. That's a ticking time bomb.

I would run 15w-50 Mobil 1 and get around 20 psi hot at idle and around 50 psi hot at RPM cruise/WOT. When tested with 30 weight oil, it would only get 10-15 psi hot idle and around 40 psi hot at RPM cruise/WOT.

Did the buyer give you any spec sheet on the engine?

Do you plan on installing the Gear Vendors? You'll have to shorten the driveshaft of course.

Cool car! It's definitely a head turner.

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Old Aug 3, 2021 | 08:52 PM
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Robt1970: love your car. i just purchased a gold 1970 442 and after seeing yours I think i will remove my wing! It would be nice to remove my side stipes also. Have fun with it!
You will have 4 holes in you trunk if you remove the wing due to the pedestals. You would have to fill them, sand and paint.

The wing actually provides down force when at speed. #savetheW35wing
Old Aug 3, 2021 | 09:55 PM
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#ditchthewing
If it came on it originally then ok. I think the Oldsmobile A body look so so clean. The wing breaks up the bodyline. Hate me all day that's cool. Plenty of people love the wing. They hate calling it the wing. I like towel rack. Ha ha. Hey we all like what we like. If you are on the love the wing side so be it.

Love both of your cars. Two of the best color combos ever on a 70 Olds. Can't say enough about either one. In the eighties out here there was a local guy named Wayne. He had a 70 in that turquoise. Pictures don't do it justice like in person. Beautiful car.

Nugget Gold another special order color is the same. When I was a kid there was a guy that had a 70 W-31 Nugget Gold car. Four speed. Slotted aluminum mags. I watched that car smoke so many.

Oldsmobile On 🤟
Old Aug 4, 2021 | 04:43 AM
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You will have 4 holes in you trunk if you remove the wing due to the pedestals. You would have to fill them, sand and paint.

The wing actually provides down force when at speed. #savetheW35wing
Thanks Pettrix: Probably wait till I have some other paint corrections done. Paint job is pretty good but there are some areas like door jambs that could have used a little more attention so probably have them re-done when remove wing.
Old Aug 4, 2021 | 04:48 AM
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Thanks Guinnessman! Lets see what you purchased.
Its all stock except hood, inner fenders and wing. Runs and drives great.



Old Sep 16, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Great color combo. I love that color. Enjoy and congrats!
Old Sep 17, 2021 | 11:01 AM
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Love the gold interior

i would say thats probably my favorite color interior
Old Sep 18, 2021 | 07:35 PM
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Nice! It's good to see Gold paint being resprayed on these cars. I had a 1970 Cutlass SX 455 convertible in 1975-6 in dark green with gold interior. As usual I'm an idiot and sold it. The family that bought it where I traded it still has it. They repainted it to the original metallic Gold. I never knew it was factory Gold. But that was the 70's. Can't recall a lot of details but had a huge summer of fun with that car.
Tried to buy it back a few times. Not for sale. I totally respect that. I'll keep on the lookout for others or learn to be satisfied with the 1972 442.
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Oldoldster. I will bite. More details please. I really really like unrestored cars.

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Old Sep 19, 2021 | 06:00 AM
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Oldoldster. I will bite. More details please. I really really like unrestored cars.
Thats my current 1972 convertible

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