New Member just bought 1964 442
#1
New Member just bought 1964 442
Hello.
I just purchased a 1964 F-85 Club Coupe 442. It had been parked since 1982 from an owner in her eighties who bought the car in the seventies. I feel pretty good about its authenticity having verified the basics:
Dual snorkel air cleaner with applique
Data plate: Built in May, 2L Code
Emblems in place
Manual on floor
Rear sway bar
All of these items appear to be untampered with and covered with 35 years of dirt.
I will work to verify the trunk lid emblem clearance holes on the back side as soon as I can get into the trunk.
Are there any resources for very basic F-85 club coupes for 1964? Interior photos? Suppliers? It is not a Cutlass. Direction is appreciated. Thank you!
I just purchased a 1964 F-85 Club Coupe 442. It had been parked since 1982 from an owner in her eighties who bought the car in the seventies. I feel pretty good about its authenticity having verified the basics:
Dual snorkel air cleaner with applique
Data plate: Built in May, 2L Code
Emblems in place
Manual on floor
Rear sway bar
All of these items appear to be untampered with and covered with 35 years of dirt.
I will work to verify the trunk lid emblem clearance holes on the back side as soon as I can get into the trunk.
Are there any resources for very basic F-85 club coupes for 1964? Interior photos? Suppliers? It is not a Cutlass. Direction is appreciated. Thank you!
#3
Welcome to the site! There are some members here with 1964 442's that can help you verify if its a factory 442 or a clone. There's not any sheet metal being reproduced, so if you need to replace or repair any rusted/damage panels you'll likely need used parts or to fabricate patch panels. Actually, there's not a lot of reproduction parts period for the 1964-65 Cutlass/442. But as you go through your restoration keep us in the loop. If you have questions or need to locate parts post away!
John
John
#4
Here's a thread that can help you connect with some 1964 442 owners.
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...your-help.html
https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...your-help.html
#8
Great find,congrats. I would be interested in the engine code prefixes stamped on the right front cylinder head. It should be TxxxxxxG and maybe another letter after the G. If you decide to sell,let me know and I might be a player. Is this the car that was for sale in Oregon by any chance?
Thanks
Thanks
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I spent a lot of time back and forth via email, phone and text with him. It was his aunts car and she lived 10 miles away from him so it took a while to find things out although he was very helpful in the process.
All the 442s I find are Cutlasses. If this is real - which I suspect - it is one of the 148 club coupes. I also haven't found a 442 in Bermuda Blue - paint code H.
All the 442s I find are Cutlasses. If this is real - which I suspect - it is one of the 148 club coupes. I also haven't found a 442 in Bermuda Blue - paint code H.
#15
More pics, please. Oops, damn. Wait...I had to wipe some drool off of my keyboard.
OK, whew. Now where were we? Front, back, sides, more underhood, interior???
OK, whew. Now where were we? Front, back, sides, more underhood, interior???
Last edited by tru-blue 442; February 9th, 2017 at 01:23 PM.
#19
Yep, missed out on this one. Spoke to the seller multiple times but couldn't find anyone willing to drag it from Oregon to Florida. Tried finding local 442 members that could take a firsthand look at it, but no luck so had to pass. Wasn't will to shell out cash with no way to get it to Florida or confirm condition.
#20
Took delivery today. Confirmed boxed control arms, multiple mounting holes for trailing arms, and pleasurizer shocks.
It is surely a project, but I am super excited!
I saw that it has a block off plate where the ash tray is supposed to be on the dash..thought that was cool...
Thanks for the welcome! I look forward to picking your brains as this unfolds...
It is surely a project, but I am super excited!
I saw that it has a block off plate where the ash tray is supposed to be on the dash..thought that was cool...
Thanks for the welcome! I look forward to picking your brains as this unfolds...
#22
I think the picture is upside down and looks like an OEM bar to me. I think as long as the car has been sitting,I doubt there's any aftermarket parts on it. Just my guess.
#23
However, Asusport states that the control arms are boxed, so this probably isn't even a consideration.
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One hole is smooth - the one on the right, the one on the left is rougher.
The attached pic is the emblem. This car has had a repaint way back when - the emblem looks like it was removed for the repaint - no paint ridge around the emblem. I hear the studs on the back are different between 1964 and 1965 emblems and that the 1965s are the only ones reproduced. Thoughts?
UPDATE: The repaint was on the hood, the top of the car, and a few spot areas mostly on the passenger side. The emblems are over the original paint.
The attached pic is the emblem. This car has had a repaint way back when - the emblem looks like it was removed for the repaint - no paint ridge around the emblem. I hear the studs on the back are different between 1964 and 1965 emblems and that the 1965s are the only ones reproduced. Thoughts?
UPDATE: The repaint was on the hood, the top of the car, and a few spot areas mostly on the passenger side. The emblems are over the original paint.
Last edited by Asusport; February 16th, 2017 at 11:24 AM. Reason: Updated information - original information unaltered
#32
The trunk holes appear original, but agree that the left hole seems more jagged. The gap between the two holes should be close to 5/16 of an inch.
What are the two numbers on the back of the block next to the distributor hole? Should be either 1 or 2 and then a number below 100.
What are the two numbers on the back of the block next to the distributor hole? Should be either 1 or 2 and then a number below 100.
#35
My statement was confusing. It is a Bermuda Blue car and most likely the original trunk lid.
I am trying to be objective and scrutinize this car as much as anyone else to verify authenticity - at least as much as I can without POP or build sheet.
I appreciate everyone's input very much!
I am trying to be objective and scrutinize this car as much as anyone else to verify authenticity - at least as much as I can without POP or build sheet.
I appreciate everyone's input very much!
#40
That's not correct for the 442. However, maybe the original owner requested the 3.08. With that said, 3.08 was the standard axle for all manual trans cars with a 330 and 2barrel carb, while the 4barrel 330 manual trans cars had a 3.23 as standard equipment.