Earliest built 1970 442 & W30

Old August 27th, 2015, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 70-442-W30
Wanted to share what I found: The VIN I have is 166xxx. With the 10C.
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Also another tidbit of information on the car I wanted to share...the Original Titled date on it was 11-21-1969. So this may or may not be an October build. If it is a November build, that's still not bad, just not one of the first few hundred.
A Fisher Body build date of 10C is consistent with a VIN of 166xxx. And 10C is the third week of October. 166xxx is lower than mine, so you take over 2nd place -- once you prove it's really a W-30.
Don't worry about the titled date.
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Old August 27th, 2015, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackGold View Post
A Fisher Body build date of 10C is consistent with a VIN of 166xxx. And 10C is the third week of October. 166xxx is lower than mine, so you take over 2nd place -- once you prove it's really a W-30.
Don't worry about the titled date.
Well, I'll definitely need your help for the verification process. Thanks for being the great resource to me you have been so far. Maybe our cars will meet up someday.
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10/17 card - W30 verified...see my new post with pics!

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Old December 2nd, 2015, 04:12 PM
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Old December 2nd, 2015, 04:18 PM
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Thanks Stefano. Like I said before, I really had no doubt based on the years that he owned it. But the transmission is from a 1969 Hurst. How many people have that combo? HAHA!
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It has been some time since we stopped this discussion. Any other October cars that anyone has found since?
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Old July 28th, 2016, 07:22 AM
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Early Linden 70 442?

My Linden, NJ built 70 442 seems to be an early build. The Fisher body number is E15 but the cowl tag does not have a date from what I can see. See picture. Where I expect the date code to be it says B85 C08.

However from the recently found build sheet the "Schedule No Date" Block 10 says "08 08-04". What does this mean? Car built August 4, 1969 or 4th week of August 1969? Found the build sheet on top of the fuel tank, it was under the black mat and stained a bunch but I have got 95% of the data from it so far. The build sheet lists body number E00015 which matches cowl tag.
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Old July 28th, 2016, 03:28 PM
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Lots of great info in this thread! Was a good read Now for a question..........does anyone know the very last day they made 70's at the Lansing plant? Talking Cutlasses here!
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Originally Posted by ronskal View Post
My Linden, NJ built 70 442 seems to be an early build. The Fisher body number is E15 but the cowl tag does not have a date from what I can see. See picture. Where I expect the date code to be it says B85 C08.
What are the last 6 digits of your VIN?
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Old July 29th, 2016, 04:39 PM
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What are the last 6 digits of your VIN?
Then VIN is 344870E100386.
What does the schedule no and date code of 08 08-04 mean for actual date?
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Old August 1st, 2016, 04:51 PM
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I'm no expert on interpreting Linden build sheets.

VINs for the model year started with 100001, so yours was the 386th car built. This means it was likely built on the first day of production for the 1970 model year, though it would never surprise me to find that it took a few days to get the line moving up to speed at the beginning of the year.
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Originally Posted by BlackGold View Post
I'm no expert on interpreting Linden build sheets.

VINs for the model year started with 100001, so yours was the 386th car built. This means it was likely built on the first day of production for the 1970 model year, though it would never surprise me to find that it took a few days to get the line moving up to speed at the beginning of the year.
That is cool that it could be a day 1 build, thanks.
Any idea what the Schedule NO Date of 08 08-04 means?
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Originally Posted by ronskal View Post
Any idea what the Schedule NO Date of 08 08-04 means?
Like I said, no expert ...... but looking at a bunch of pictures of build sheets I have, the first two digits are sometimes higher than 30, and one is even in the 80s, so it can't be part of a date. I'm guessing that's the Schedule Number. What exactly that is, I can't say. Maybe instead of one continuous rolling schedule the plant created separate, finite schedules, each of which covered a day or week or other arbitrary time.

Again, looking at all my build sheets it's apparent that the last four digits (with dash) are indeed a Date. September 4 in your case, which is indeed very early in the production year. But is this the date the car was ordered by the dealer? Scheduled by the plant? The actual production date? Who knows.
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Originally Posted by ronskal View Post
That is cool that it could be a day 1 build, thanks.
Any idea what the Schedule NO Date of 08 08-04 means?
Get a pic of that build sheet on here. Would be interesting to see. Congrats on the early, possibly Day 1 car.
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Nasty Looking Build Sheet!

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Get a pic of that build sheet on here. Would be interesting to see. Congrats on the early, possibly Day 1 car.
Here it is, I have been able to get 95% of the info transcribed off of it, using a magnifier or just carefully cleaning it off.
Found on top of the fuel tank but under the tank mat which transferred the nasty brown material to it.
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It is just great to see that. I bet you were so amped up when you found it. What kind of shape is the car in?
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Car is a good condition 3 driver, not original motor. Paint is original color- Twilight Blue but has been re-painted at least once.
I bought it in February and have been enjoying driving it/working on it repeat.......
Interior had been redone before I got it, I figured the build sheet was not going to be found since that had been done. Got lucky when I dropped the fuel tank to fix the inaccurate fuel gauge!
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I always thought that ALL 1970 w30's were made in Lansing Michigan but in a Jay Leno's Garage they talked about his convertible 1970 w30 made in "Fremont, California "!!! Is that possible??
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All W-30's were Lansing built.
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What was the build month on the broadcast card
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What was the build month on the broadcast card
I don't think that it shows that information. But does it make a difference for olds made in Cali?
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I always thought that ALL 1970 w30's were made in Lansing Michigan but in a Jay Leno's Garage they talked about his convertible 1970 w30 made in "Fremont, California "!!! Is that possible??
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If it was made in Fremont, it was not originally a W-30. It's not uncommon for people who have a W-30 clone (tribute, badges-only, whatever) to refer to their car as a W-30 out of convenience, ignorance, whatever.

Let me guess: his convertible has a wing, too, right?
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