Well, except for the part about "beginning January 20"

 

I can see how that would be a PITA but I thought C60 ac was not available on any 442 or cutlass with gears steeper than 3.23 such as G88 (3.91), G89( 4.33)and G92 (3.42) option codes (which were mandatory with W31,W30 and W32)

i don’t have that book
any more but that’s all I remember..could be wrong though. Thought that as why all ac cars came with 3.23 or higher.

the 68 HO came with 3.08 with AC correct?

that looks cumbersome for the hoses over the ac though…

 

I still maintain that AC is why the 69 H/O got the Mailbox hood scoop OAI.

 

Somebody here has said and has the same belief as I do concerning W cars with air conditioning. I can't remember who it was. I don't get why you would order a high performance car and add air conditioning. All the weight. All the lost room under the hood. You buy a car specifically made to haul a$$ but you add air conditioning? To each their own but I have never understood that math. I do get that when people would go to buy a new car especially back then you might want to load it up but it just doesn't make sense to me to add all that to a performance car.

 

Not everyone had the luxury of having multiple cars. When the girlfriend/wife says " I won't ride without A/C " well....sometimes you give in.

 

I think this is why I will remain single. I know too many guys whose wives are prissy little flowers with whom they have very little in common. I'm like, ok, you have a steady date, but you don't share any adventures besides dinner, netflix, and the bedroom; think I'd rather go without.

 

I am Glad to have read this post! Albeit a little late. I have passed on a few 69 442's that had pictures of the #366 Cowl tag but not of the VIN# and considered them to be clones. I did buy a 69 442 convertible with a #344 Cowl Tag, but it was not as good of shape as some of the others. I wish the Sellers had informed of this in their ads. Live and Learn

On the A/C 442's, I am Really glad to have it. Living in Texas where the avg high temp for 3 months is 100 degrees.

 

You'd be surprised how few people actually know of this 336 cowl tag situation on some of the 442s.

 

I bet that's correct! I recently purchased this 69 442, and would like some help on the Cowl Tag and Vin#. Pretty sure I understand the Vin#, but there could be something I'm missing. The Cowl I understand some of. I could use some help!

 

69 vert Fremont car, its a relatively early build last week of Sept 68.

VIN:
3=Olds
44=4400 series or 442 model
67=vert
Z=Fremont plant
The last 6 numbers are the consecutive unit number that went down the assy line

Cowl tag:
ST 69 - 34467 = same thing, 69 442 vert
BF = Fremont
00031?
Sidways 2?
TR 942 is the interior dark green bench same for the painted interior surfaces.
59 A = Meadow Green Poly(metal flake) "A" is the top color, white
09E Last week of September 1968(for the 69 model year).
The numbers after 09C anyone's guess.

 

00031 is the Fisher Body sequence number. This was the 31st Olds convertible body scheduled by Fisher the Fremont line for the 1969 model year, which is consistent with the 09E build date and the 3378 VIN sequence number (the VIN tags started at 100001, so this is the 3378th Olds built at Fremont that model year). The numbers after the date code in the last line have been proven to tie back to scheduling numbers on the build sheet. This was done by Fremont and Arlington plants.

 

the vin is easy
3= Oldsmobile
44= 442
67=convertible
9= 1969
Z= California plant, Fremont
then actual assembly line sequence.

I know some of the trim so hopefully someone (Joe) will have the full book for all of it
the 69-34467 same as above info
BF is plant and fisher body number
tr 942 = green bench seat
59= dark green paint (glade)
A is white top
09E= 5 th week of Sep ( week made)
rest of those numbers I am not familiar with, different plants used different data plates.
the above info is pretty standard amongst most plants
Should get you started.

oh that’s weird there were no replies when I saw this then I replied and two in front o me showed up strange…well I think you got what you needed hehe

 

Thanks Gentlemen! Yes the sequence #'s and the sideways "2" on cowl tag were the biggest mysteries! Ya'll did help me alot with your previous posts and these to understand more about the car! I'm excited to pull the gas tank and rear seat to look for a build sheet after reading your posts about Fremont cars!


Wish it was a floor shift bucket car. But has A/C, power windows, disc brakes.

Also have this S base car.

Wish i had pics before removing the fenders and hood. Fenders needed minor rust repair at lower rear.

 

Thanks for the information! Alot of your previous posts got me most of the way. The sequence #'s on the cowl tag were/are confusing. Do you have any idea why the #2 might be stamped sideways on it? Replacement tag or body? I actually worked for Peterbilt as a test tech and made the Vin tags for the trucks. But not trim tags. Never came across anything like that. I appreciate your help

 

Thanks for the reply and work put in to help me! I am impressed with all the help i received from this community! I need to learn more about this website and how to post/respond. Although i am 57 yrs old and owned several 442's, Cutlass' and 1 H/O since i was 18 yrs. old. Ya'll know alot more than i do! I appreciate the help and support sincerely!

 

Fremont sometimes stamped that number to indicate the body fixture used.

 

Thanks for information 👍 I am learning! Pretty sure ya'll have my car figured out! Maybe I can find a build sheet! Kinda a boring car as a bench seat 442! I have a ways to go before really proud! Thank You!