1969 Cutlass S and 1969 442 Differences
#1
1969 Cutlass S and 1969 442 Differences
Hey guys i know this seems like a stupid question which i think it is but i want to hear some feedback from Old's nuts like you guys. I just want to know all of the differences between these to car besides the emblems and motor etc. I have spotted many differences myself but would just like to see some of them in a list so i can know "The Official Differences" Sorry if i bore anybody
#2
OK, here's a few:
Rear bumper with exhaust trumpet cutouts
Exhaust trumpet tips
Rear Bumper brackets with tabs for exhaust
FE II suspension, sway bars and springs
Boxed lower control arms for rear sway bar
Grill Panels
If automatic transmission, it will have a code showing 442 application
You already mentioned the engine and emblems
Others can add to the list.
John
Rear bumper with exhaust trumpet cutouts
Exhaust trumpet tips
Rear Bumper brackets with tabs for exhaust
FE II suspension, sway bars and springs
Boxed lower control arms for rear sway bar
Grill Panels
If automatic transmission, it will have a code showing 442 application
You already mentioned the engine and emblems
Others can add to the list.
John
#3
Also some Cutlass have a chrome stripe around the rear tail light lens and a wide chrome strip on the bottom of the trunk lid covering the trunk key hole[442's have a very thin one at the bottom of the trunk lid] They have a different hood and the air cleaner snorkle is longer and narrower [W learnt me that]
#4
You all missed the most important difference - the G-block 400 motor!
Of course, in 1969, the BBO in the A-body used the different motor and frame mounts than the SBO, thus starting a lifetime of motor mount confusion in the Olds community. The base 442 came with bucket seats and a HD 3 speed manual trans with floor shifter (the console was optional. The base Cutlass came with a bench seat and a Saginaw 3 speed manual with column shifter. Of course, both had optional seating and transmissions. Note that the 69 Cutlass was only available with the Jetaway and TH350 automatics, the 442 was only available with the TH400 automatic.
Other differences are the use of fuel return on the non-A/C 442 but no fuel return on the non-A/C Cutlass. The 69 442s got the internal regulator alternator. Lesser Cutlii got the standard external regulator. Standard wheels and tires were also different.
Of course, in 1969, the BBO in the A-body used the different motor and frame mounts than the SBO, thus starting a lifetime of motor mount confusion in the Olds community. The base 442 came with bucket seats and a HD 3 speed manual trans with floor shifter (the console was optional. The base Cutlass came with a bench seat and a Saginaw 3 speed manual with column shifter. Of course, both had optional seating and transmissions. Note that the 69 Cutlass was only available with the Jetaway and TH350 automatics, the 442 was only available with the TH400 automatic.
Other differences are the use of fuel return on the non-A/C 442 but no fuel return on the non-A/C Cutlass. The 69 442s got the internal regulator alternator. Lesser Cutlii got the standard external regulator. Standard wheels and tires were also different.
Last edited by joe_padavano; December 28th, 2009 at 08:11 AM. Reason: Typo
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#9
hood?
Also some Cutlass have a chrome stripe around the rear tail light lens and a wide chrome strip on the bottom of the trunk lid covering the trunk key hole[442's have a very thin one at the bottom of the trunk lid] They have a different hood and the air cleaner snorkle is longer and narrower [W learnt me that]
Are you sure the hood is different?
#16
other tidbits
the double hump hoods are the same. one has an emblem, one doesn't
442 on the glove box or Cutlass S on the glove box
The chrome stripe on the taillight lens is on F-85 and Supreme
since someone mentioned the VIN, do we have to mention the dataplate also
#17
Great info guys. Now I'm going to go out and clone a car
On the good side, this allows us to spot potential fraud when someone tries to pass off a Cutlass as a 442 during a sale.
On the good side, this allows us to spot potential fraud when someone tries to pass off a Cutlass as a 442 during a sale.
Last edited by stlbluesbrother; December 30th, 2009 at 07:32 AM. Reason: new info
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#25
Yes. The dimples were designed to allow the front fenders to crush and absorb impact energy in a head-on collision and started with the 1971 model year. This really only applies to 1970 vs. 71-72 front fenders, since these years are interchangeable but the 1970 fenders don't have the dimples whereas the 1971-72 fenders (and the factory replacements) do have the dimples. In any case, it is not a 442 vs. Cutlass distinction.
#30
How many different places do you plan to ask this same question? And FYI, most of us just buy pre-mixed Olds bronze paint from places like Bill Hirsch or Supercars or Fusick.
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