Just bought a 1968 w-30 convertible one owner all original except for paint. All numbers match have build sheet and window sticker no rust but the motor was detuned for low grade gas. Looking to due a frame off but have no ideal on what they are worth. Would love to here on what you guys think the value is. Option are power steering, rally pack, am radio with rear speaker and auto. colors white on white.

 

A car like that is worth about $1000 to maybe $1500. Tell you what, I will come get it and give you $2000 for it. :-)

j/k of course. Seems like all fixed up something like that oughta fetch 40-50k. Maybe more. I have such a car. Almost identical. Can you please contact me, I would LOVE to see build sheet and window sticker. Do you have real D heads on it, air scoops, the OAI air cleaner? I assume your car is the more common Manual Trans version?

Chris Witt
517-449-043-Two

 

I'm guessing what you are calling a build sheet is what is known as a "broadcast card" and not what is known as a "build sheet". Build sheets for Lansing built cars are almost non-existent.
First pic is a build sheet, second is a Broadcast Card. Would definitely like to see yours!

 

Pictures of the car would be nice!

 

Depends on the quality of the restoration. That is a top dollar 1968. Lee

 

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w30 hurst olds.jpgI have the punch card and the product card I also have the original key punch still its original bag

 

I'd really like to see a copy of what you have also. Feel free to black out the VIN. Documentation for 68 & 69's are very rare. I've only seen undisputable paperwork on one 69 W30 HT and that was an original window sticker.

Except of course, as Chris will point out, the engine VIN and the tranny VIN on an automatic will have the same number and the tranny will be the W30 only version (I can't remember the number but it's not the OG). I think they are reproducing those tranny tags so it will only be a matter of time before there are more auto W30's out there than were ever produced.

As for value. The undocumented ones with all the right parts and no paperwork go for $30k to $50k with the occasional crazy BJ price being silly higher. A 68 442 convertible 4 speed car (non W30) sold at BJ for over $100k a couple years ago but that was just two goofballs who had to have the car more than the other.

 

wow where the heck did you find that car - looks great good luck with it, enjoy it!

 

Give up some more pics! Have any of the engine compartment?
Shawn

 

Wow

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...ast-sheet.html

 

Just looking at the two pics posted so far, but are you sure that car needs a full restoration? It looks really decent! There are only so many original cars like that left and they provide a valuable glimpse into how these cars were put together originally compared to the many over-restored ones that are out there. Looking forward to more pics....
Terry

 

The engine was painted the wrong color by the original owner. This was a stripe less car with hub caps.The owners brother put on the rallys and stripe before I bought it.The question, leave the car the way it was ordered ???[ATTACH]DSC03984B.jpg[/ATTACH]

 

Considering this is one of the few 68 W30's with a build sheet, I'd restore it to exactly what it had originally. The location of the fender stripe isn't factory correct anyway so it has to go. JMO

 

To some I may be splitting hairs here, but he has a Broadcast Card, not a Build Sheet.

 

I stand corrected

Kurt,

Have you ever seen a 68-69 Lansing car with either a Broadcast Card or a Build Sheet? Just wondering because I haven't see any myself. It seems they were pretty strict in 68-69 about making sure the cars got cleaned out at the end of the line. (Lansing)

 

Yes, there are a number of Lansing cars with Broadcast Cards. I've seen less of '68s and '69s than '70+.
Attached are 2 different '69 Lansing cards.

 

I'm a newbie here, and I know it was said that the stripe was put on just before you bought it, but since the stripe lines up with the 442 emblems, and they don't show correct position for a W30, wouldn't that mean the fenders were replaced with the wrong ones (since it has W30 documentation)?

 

This w-30 came with a stripe delete, on the in side of the fenders the w-30 is in pencil markings

 

Cool. Just suprised they would have put on 442 drilled fenders instead of the W30 drilled 442 fenders, even with the stripe delete. Nice car!

 

Congratulations!!! I rarely see white 442 ('68-'69) hardtops let alone convertibles.

I was not aware you could order a W-30 performance package on a convertible ('66-'69)

 

Where was this built?

I just referenced my book "Oldsmobile 4-4-2 & W-Machines Restoration Guide". It shows 170 4-4-2 W30 convertibles were built in 1968 with 43 being automatics.

Did anyone notice on the build sheet "W30" & "W31" is shared on the same line?

This 442 should be dubbed "White Unicorn"

 

The fenders were pierced for numerals at the Lansing plant (painted there too I believe). The revised numeral location was part of the W36 option. That option was included with the W30 option package but not mandatory. If you ordered "stripe delete" you went back to the standard numeral placement. If you look at the assembly manual it makes sense.

 

@ Wraythe that book/guide you have does it have any production figures for a 1968 442 convertible Turnpike Cruiser with auto trans? Thanks..

 

Leave it stock or at least make changes you can easily reverse (such as keeping the current 7" wide wheels for the larger tire sizes they allow if you like the look of wider tires).

If it's a W30 it's too valuable to start "straying off the path of originality" in a big way IF you think you will ever be selling the car.

Then again it's your car and your enjoyment is what counts
first.

That's a really cool find!

 

I would leave it the way it sits. Enjoy it and drive it! If you do a frame off, would you really want to ever take it out driving knowing what you put into it? I'm one that goes out on a nice day while I see some friends too busy polishing the chrome on their vehicles to actually go out an enjoy them! You have a great find, especially with the cool "Youngmobiles" paperwork!

 

Is the Turnpike Cruiser identified with "W" number?

 

Leave it original.

A guess on value, between $30k - $50k. I would place the value on your W30 convertible higher than a Hurst/Olds of the same year.

 

AWESOME!! I agree with some of the above, detail it & get it to the point of enjoying the drive.
Can you post more pics & a pic of the window sticker?

Pic below is my former "provincial white" W30 4-spd w/3.91s

 

No, it was option code L65 for 1968.

 

Only available in converts starting in 1968. This is clearly stated in the SPECS booklets available on Wild About Cars
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There are no figures available that I am aware of. In '67 there were approx 2300 built so you can only guess from there.

 

Thank you for the reference. Already a member, a quick reference to my book confirmed '68-'69 W30 convertibles did exist. I'm shocked I haven't seen any coverage in any books or magazines.

 

With 170 and 121 built, lineage dependent on documentation, and general preference for 1970-72 cars, it's no wonder you haven't seen coverage, but it's out there.

 

That would make mine one of 43 so built. If you put on enough restrictions. [Auto Trans]

Looking over the build figures published by Year One, I saw only one model more rare- a W31 of some sort.

 

we could split the hair a little more..that big sheet your calling a build sheet is actually a GMAD... General Motors Assembly Division sheet that were used for FINAL assembly.



i think build sheet is just a generic term used for any documentation found in a car showing options...even the big sheets are called broadcast sheets by many...

 

My point is not to argue what the piece of paper is called. My point is to differentiate between 2 different existing (not theoretical) documents. In this case the difference between what is a Fisher Body document (with body related info) and the Olds assembly document (with chassis related info). There are 2 different documents being discussed here. And you can't call them the same thing because they are not!

 

Kurt, i understand exactly what youre saying...and i mean exactly, but it is what it is, and at the end of the day, does it matter? I personally feel like its trivial...maybe its important to you and i, but its going to be hard to change the use of the words..its car slang, and not many people are as pasionate as you or I...

 

Since you asked, I'll answer. Yes, all day long it does matter. "Car slang" does nothing but perpetuate misinformation. And if someone if content to be ignorant, that's their choice. But that is not mine, and I feel no obligation or inclination to indulge them.
I don't believe the rules have changed for "ignorance is no excuse".

 

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IMG_9747 (640x476).jpg Just to let everyone know its a M in the vin It has the number matching ow trans and engine thanks for all the replies

 

Would you make this car a w36 option, knowing that it was a stripe delite car your opinions

 

No