1967 442 Convertible

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Old Oct 30, 2018 | 04:45 PM
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1967 442 Convertible

New to the forum and thought I would check with the experts on a valuation question. I have a line on a 67 442 Convertible owned by a life long friend. I am 99% certain it is a real 442 based on the VIN, Cowl Tag, Protect-o-plate and visual inspection using information on this and other sites. It is running, driving and pretty clean but has has some rear quarter rust repair and is in need of a top. It is not a show car but a pretty clean driver quality. I know it is a pretty rare car but not sure about the value range. Any insight is appreciated.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 06:18 AM
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Pictures help. Overall, cowl tag, engine #s, underneath, etc. It helps us better evaluate it, and also establishes you as "for real" and not someone looking for info on how to clone.

The VIN won't tell you that it's a 442. The 442 package was a package, and was on a Cutlass Supreme. The VIN has the body type, and you'd be looking for Cutlass Supreme convertible. Likewise on the cowl tag, the body number will say Cutlass Supreme Convertible. There are package codes that mean 442 package. If the engine number matches the protectoplate, then you have the original engine. There are certain components that are 442 only as well.

For value, a 442 convertible is not a rare care. They made a lot. Sounds like it's a #4 condition car on the Old Car Price Guide (driver). I don't have my issue in front of me, but I'd estimate 8 to 10k.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 06:22 AM
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The cowl tag will have a "V" code on it if it is a 442 option.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by edzolz
The cowl tag will have a "V" code on it if it is a 442 option.
Unless it was built in the Fremont plant. They didn't put the code on the trim tag 1965-67 like other assembly plants. But there are other ways to recognize a 442 from Fremont.

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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by 2blu442
Unless it was built in the Fremont plant. They didn't put the code on the trim tag 1965-67 like other assembly plants. But there are other ways to recognize a 442 from Fremont.

John
True, not knowing where the car is from, but that info would help possibly id a true 442 from a different assembly plant.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 04:15 PM
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It is a Lansing car with the 5VY code with power windows and A/C. It has the original engine based on the protect-O-plate number, not sure about the tranny. Will try and post picture.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 05:20 PM
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Old Oct 31, 2018 | 05:29 PM
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Its probably worth in the $20k+ range if its as nice as it is in the pictures and runs/ drives well mechanically.
Old Oct 31, 2018 | 07:21 PM
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That is a much nicer car than I thought you described. Eric is correct.

Mechlin, you want the "parts wanted" section, and make your own thread for a wanted part.
Old Nov 1, 2018 | 04:27 AM
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Very nice. Pictures of the engine bay would be great. Looks like a keeper. Couldn't see the paint code. Looks like Midnight blue. Keep us informed and welcome to the forum. Good luck on the purchase.
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Old Nov 1, 2018 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by TDS_1
It has the original engine based on the protect-O-plate number,
Well, in reality, all you can prove it that it has one original head, since that's where the engine unit number is stamped. As an example, my 67 Delta also has a "numbers matching" engine, despite the fact that the short block is a 1969 455. The one head with the engine unit number from the original 425 is on that motor. The other original head was cracked, so the other one is not original either.
Old Nov 1, 2018 | 04:23 PM
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Thanks to everyone for the input. The paint code is the midnight blue with the light blue interior. I understand the engine code comment but I am getting it at the right price so it's not a deal killer. Hoping for the best. Looking forward to getting the car and leaning on this forum for more input.
Old Nov 2, 2018 | 07:23 AM
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Identify 442

The engine must be a 400 cu, You can tell this by measuring the width of the intake manifold at the front. It must be 14 inches. If it is 12 inches it is a 330 cu.
.Also the differential is probably positraction and you can tell this because you cannot spin one wheel while the other is still on the ground. Also stabilizer arms on the rear end have a box like construction on the 442.

They made a lot of 442's that year, but not too many 442 convertibles. Most of them you see nowadays are cutlass convertibles converted to look like 442. If it is indeed a 442 convertible you have a very rare car
Old Nov 2, 2018 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by DRoger5739
The engine must be a 400 cu, You can tell this by measuring the width of the intake manifold at the front. It must be 14 inches. If it is 12 inches it is a 330 cu.
.Also the differential is probably positraction and you can tell this because you cannot spin one wheel while the other is still on the ground. Also stabilizer arms on the rear end have a box like construction on the 442.

They made a lot of 442's that year, but not too many 442 convertibles. Most of them you see nowadays are cutlass convertibles converted to look like 442. If it is indeed a 442 convertible you have a very rare car

Only 3080 442 Convertibles in 1967. Thats only 227 more than 1966.
Wayne

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