Three different SSI JK code wheels?
#1
Three different SSI JK code wheels?
I bought a set of SSI wheels and one of them is something I can't identify and was hoping someone could shed light on this for me.
These are all 14 x 6 JK code wheels. Two are 795 code and I know what they are. One is 810 code and I know what that is (made in 69 only to fit disc brakes). The 4rth is an 813 code which somewhat looks like the 810 code in that it looks like it may fit disc brakes but I'm not sure if it is an Oldsmobile wheel. The 813 code wheel is from 69 like the 810 wheel but the profile is different as the pics will show and is different from the 795 wheels. To make it more confusing one of the 795 and the 813 wheel is bright chrome on the spokes and the other 795 wheel and the 810 are as I expected blasted so they have a frosty look on chrome on the spokes. The bright chrome 795 wheel doesn't have a date code on it but the the frosty one is from 1968. Also the 813 wheel backspacing looks to be 4 inches even. Any help in identifying if this 813 wheel is an Olds or something else is appreciated.
The 813 code wheel
The 810 code wheel
You can see that the 813 (right) comes farther to the centerline and tapers in more gradually than the 795 wheels but not as gradually as the 810 (left) wheel.
795 wheels
Bottom left (813) and top left are bright chrome on the spokes and bottom right (810) and top right are both frosty on the spokes.
These are all 14 x 6 JK code wheels. Two are 795 code and I know what they are. One is 810 code and I know what that is (made in 69 only to fit disc brakes). The 4rth is an 813 code which somewhat looks like the 810 code in that it looks like it may fit disc brakes but I'm not sure if it is an Oldsmobile wheel. The 813 code wheel is from 69 like the 810 wheel but the profile is different as the pics will show and is different from the 795 wheels. To make it more confusing one of the 795 and the 813 wheel is bright chrome on the spokes and the other 795 wheel and the 810 are as I expected blasted so they have a frosty look on chrome on the spokes. The bright chrome 795 wheel doesn't have a date code on it but the the frosty one is from 1968. Also the 813 wheel backspacing looks to be 4 inches even. Any help in identifying if this 813 wheel is an Olds or something else is appreciated.
The 813 code wheel
The 810 code wheel
You can see that the 813 (right) comes farther to the centerline and tapers in more gradually than the 795 wheels but not as gradually as the 810 (left) wheel.
795 wheels
Bottom left (813) and top left are bright chrome on the spokes and bottom right (810) and top right are both frosty on the spokes.
#2
813 is a 1966-67 Buick wheel. I don't think it fits discs. I think your description or pics are mixed up. Buick wheels typically have brushed spokes. A 66-67 Buick wheel has more backspacing, to clear rear fender skirts. The wheel in the bottom right of your last pics looks like a 66-67 Buick wheel. Where the center of the wheel is welded to the wheel hoop, it's almost flush, like there's no lip there.
Last edited by mrolds69; March 24th, 2019 at 10:01 AM.
#3
Its not mixed up. The 810 code wheel on the right is frosty on the spokes and the 813 code wheel is bright chrome on the spokes. The painted parts on the two bright chromed spokes are also glossy (possibly repainted) rather than a more flatish black as the other two are (and my other wheels are flatish black too). I read in Oldsmobility web site (I think that's where I saw it) that initially the SSI wheels were having issues with painted part in the centers of the spokes not holding well so they blasted the centers and the spokes at the same time which made the frosty look. I have a set of 4 of these 810 code wheels and I bought this set to get this one to use for my spare because I want to upgrade to front disc brakes. Now I have extra wheels to get rid of so just wanted to try to figure out who to market this to, in order to find a willing buyer.
I do appreciate the feedback. I will check with some Buick people to see if there is interest in this wheel.
Thanks,
Jack
I do appreciate the feedback. I will check with some Buick people to see if there is interest in this wheel.
Thanks,
Jack
#4
I've never heard that before about the spokes I thought maybe the wheel was re-chromed. I noticed the shinier black, also. I'll check the wheels on my 67 GS. Here's a Buick chart.
http://www.v8buick.com/index.php?att...rt-jpg.158600/
http://www.v8buick.com/index.php?att...rt-jpg.158600/
#5
There's a lot more info. about these wheels at this address, but this is the part I referred to earlier. Someone else on Classic Olds discussion stated that the 69 wheel was 810 code which is consistent with the other set of 810 code wheels I got from a guy who told me that they came off his 69 and he did have them on front disc brakes. I have a parts car frame in my garage that has front discs on it that I plan to use for parts to upgrade my 67 front manual drum brakes to power and front discs. I'll try both the 810 and 813 wheel on there this afternoon once I get it up on jacks.
http://www.oldsmobility.com/old/superstock.htm
SSI History
Introduced in 1966 and available through 1970 under option code PO5. The spokes and rim were chrome, with the area between the spokes painted semi-gloss black. The wheel is stamped by the number 795C on the inside of the rim. These do not fit disc-brake models. However, there was a rare 14" x 6" wheel option for '69 models with disc brakes which have a different offset to accommodate the brakes.
http://www.oldsmobility.com/old/superstock.htm
SSI History
Introduced in 1966 and available through 1970 under option code PO5. The spokes and rim were chrome, with the area between the spokes painted semi-gloss black. The wheel is stamped by the number 795C on the inside of the rim. These do not fit disc-brake models. However, there was a rare 14" x 6" wheel option for '69 models with disc brakes which have a different offset to accommodate the brakes.
#7
For this conversation The numbers Ex.795,810,813 identify the rim style(Shape) . For the example above 795/810 were olds specific(their style). Buick had there own numbers for there style etc. Also keep in mind "motor wheel"(manufacture) made this style magnum 500 wheel available over the counter at speed shops, sears etc. If memory serves me I believe the 813 is one of the aftermarket rims and will not fit disc's.
#9
the 795, 810 & 813 are the HOOP shape & size
JK (or J / JJ) is the bead design
Motor Wheel Corp made all these wheels
the satin spoke ones started as Oldsmobile SSIs, the bright spokes started as (over-the-counter / "speed-shop" or other) MAGNUM 500s
the M4/9 stamp inside the "HOOP" indicates Motor Wheel Corp., plant #4, 1969 (plant #1 is Lansing, MI & plant #5 is Chatham, ONT - anyone know where plant #4 is/was?)
there should be an additional date & wheel code stamped on the lip
JK (or J / JJ) is the bead design
Motor Wheel Corp made all these wheels
the satin spoke ones started as Oldsmobile SSIs, the bright spokes started as (over-the-counter / "speed-shop" or other) MAGNUM 500s
the M4/9 stamp inside the "HOOP" indicates Motor Wheel Corp., plant #4, 1969 (plant #1 is Lansing, MI & plant #5 is Chatham, ONT - anyone know where plant #4 is/was?)
there should be an additional date & wheel code stamped on the lip
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