Manual trans for 1964 olsd 98
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Manual trans for 1964 olsd 98
Hi i need to know if the 64 olds 98's ever came with a manual trans and does anybody have a clutch and brake pedal assembly to fit this car.
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Your best bet will be to find a 3 on the tree 1964 88 series car: Dynamic 88 or Super 88 or Jetstar I (but NOT a Jetstar 88 which will have a small-block) for the very hard to find clutch linkage, etc. Pretty sure these parts may be one year only too, as the clutch linkage on the '63 and earlier cars (I THINK) as well as the '65 and later cars (I KNOW) are different.
You could then make the car a 3 speed (maybe even add an aftermarket floor shifter) OR you could get an aftermarket bellhousing to use a Muncie 4 speed:.
Either way, it will be a lot of work (and money) to do this conversion. I did see a '64 Niety-Eight Sports coupe converted to 4 speed offered for sale on the net some time back, so its POSSIBLE.
You could then make the car a 3 speed (maybe even add an aftermarket floor shifter) OR you could get an aftermarket bellhousing to use a Muncie 4 speed:.
Either way, it will be a lot of work (and money) to do this conversion. I did see a '64 Niety-Eight Sports coupe converted to 4 speed offered for sale on the net some time back, so its POSSIBLE.
Last edited by aliensatemybuick; July 19th, 2010 at 11:06 AM.
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A local gentleman I know has a '63 Dynamic coupe with a 3 speed on the column. I'm going from memory here, but the clutch linkage setup on his car is quite bizzare, has what looks like one of those electrical breaker switches from an old Frankenstein movie mounted on the firewall, with a rod that extends nearly straight down to operate the cluch fork. I will try to get a pic and post it here, but its not always easy to get a hold of this guy.
The same fellow has a 330-equipped 1964 J88 3-on-the tree car, and the clutch setup/z-bar on that car looks totally different (resembles the one used on the '65 and later manual shift cars). Of course, the '64 J88 was a "transitional" model in many ways, and perhaps the clutch linkage was one such way, since the geometry, etc. was similar on the the later more "modern" Oldsmobiles that followed in 1965 with 425/330 engines.
So it COULD be that the '64 big cars with the 394 used the earlier style clutch linkage, but I am not sure, which is why I suggested that a '64 stick car with a 394 might be best used to source the parts for a conversion. Examination of a '64 Dynamic 88/Super 88/Jetstar I with a manual trans (or perhaps a chassis manual) would probably be in order to know for sure.
The same fellow has a 330-equipped 1964 J88 3-on-the tree car, and the clutch setup/z-bar on that car looks totally different (resembles the one used on the '65 and later manual shift cars). Of course, the '64 J88 was a "transitional" model in many ways, and perhaps the clutch linkage was one such way, since the geometry, etc. was similar on the the later more "modern" Oldsmobiles that followed in 1965 with 425/330 engines.
So it COULD be that the '64 big cars with the 394 used the earlier style clutch linkage, but I am not sure, which is why I suggested that a '64 stick car with a 394 might be best used to source the parts for a conversion. Examination of a '64 Dynamic 88/Super 88/Jetstar I with a manual trans (or perhaps a chassis manual) would probably be in order to know for sure.
Last edited by aliensatemybuick; July 20th, 2010 at 06:54 AM.
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Coldwar, that's some very interesting info, and an interesting car you have there as well. Could you please post some photos that show the clutch linkage in the engine compartment as well?
I do have to say that based on my previous experience / understanding, I tend to agree with Olds64; if you saw a '62 Starfire or a '64 98 with a manual transmission, it was also a conversion, perhaps using parts from a similar year Dynamic/Super 88.
On the topic of steering columns, I have seen/heard of column shift collars which were "smoothed" with bodywork.
I have some pics of the underside of a 1964 jetstar I which was convered to 4 speed (original 3 on the tree car) using a different bellhousing than the one I pictured already...it clearly shows the bellhousing, trans and mounting on such an arrangement. I will post as soon as I can find. This was from a car auctioned on Ebay last year.
I do have to say that based on my previous experience / understanding, I tend to agree with Olds64; if you saw a '62 Starfire or a '64 98 with a manual transmission, it was also a conversion, perhaps using parts from a similar year Dynamic/Super 88.
On the topic of steering columns, I have seen/heard of column shift collars which were "smoothed" with bodywork.
I have some pics of the underside of a 1964 jetstar I which was convered to 4 speed (original 3 on the tree car) using a different bellhousing than the one I pictured already...it clearly shows the bellhousing, trans and mounting on such an arrangement. I will post as soon as I can find. This was from a car auctioned on Ebay last year.
Last edited by aliensatemybuick; July 20th, 2010 at 12:14 PM.
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standard shift examples of every year and model are known, including 1964 98, using the large selector three-speed box, slip yoke output
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A local gentleman I know has a '63 Dynamic coupe with a 3 speed on the column. I'm going from memory here, but the clutch linkage setup on his car is quite bizzare, has what looks like one of those electrical breaker switches from an old Frankenstein movie mounted on the firewall, with a rod that extends nearly straight down to operate the cluch fork. I will try to get a pic and post it here, but its not always easy to get a hold of this guy.
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