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Old Sep 17, 2017 | 04:52 PM
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Competition plus mounting ID

Hello, I'm new o the site, I have 1969 442 that I am doing a manual conversion on, I have recently picked up a 4 speed Muncie M21, and have a manual console I am planning to have placed in the car with this conversion. But Ive been having issues IDing the mounting plate for the OEM 442 Hurst shiftier. And since there are so many types and different years I was wondering if anybody here might have a 442 with standard set up, and if they could share some pictures of what the plate is supposed to be. Also the levers would be a real help as well to see. With so many different types between car's and years I don't want to end up purchasing something that will not work with my shiftier and will end up with my knuckles smacking the dash or the shiftier hitting the console.
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 04:56 PM
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Are you aware about the issues with fitting a manual trans where an auto was with an Oldsmobile engine?
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 05:26 PM
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The engine's getting pulled, and it's not original to the car, I am having a 455 built for this car. Not really sure about any major issues that there would be. Like I said, right now my big issue is not knowing a thing about which mounting plate to run with, and which linkage levers to go with.
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Tolomei
The engine's getting pulled, and it's not original to the car, I am having a 455 built for this car. Not really sure about any major issues that there would be. Like I said, right now my big issue is not knowing a thing about which mounting plate to run with, and which linkage levers to go with.
You need to make sure that the crank is set up for the pilot bearing. Engines that got automatics didn't have the crankshaft provisioned for it and you will either need to modify the crank, get a crank that is set up for it, or modify the input shaft of the trans and get a special beairng for the conversion.
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 06:30 PM
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Luckily like I said the 455 is being rebuilt, so it's not too big of a problem at this stage. But thanks for mentioning it, I had heard something about this once before. I'll mention it too my engine shop.
Old Sep 17, 2017 | 06:36 PM
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The crankshaft not being machined for the pilot bearing is one issue that was mentioned, but the larger issue is the fact that some 455's did not have the provision for ball stud on the side of the block for the equalizer bar. And this plate should work http://www.ebay.com/itm/442-W-30-GTO...dZLx6W&vxp=mtr. Good luck

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Old Sep 18, 2017 | 11:21 AM
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Hello Mike

welcome here .... nice meeting you and your dad yesterday ...
thanks for stoppin up and sayin hello and your purchase

Hopefully we will get a picture of someones 69-72 muncie Hurst mount
plate and a good picture of linkage to help you out...

see you at Portland swap meet end of the month !! ??

Scott T
Old Sep 18, 2017 | 07:17 PM
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Yeah man, thanks Scott, Yesterday was awesome, and a really big help.
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