STIFF clutch pedal feel
#1
STIFF clutch pedal feel
Hi all!
I've had my car (1971 Cutlass convertible, 350/4 speed) for a little over a month now, Loving her! Except:
The clutch pedal feel is really, REALLY stiff, which gets pretty fatiguing in traffic.
So, I am wondering what, if anything, other 4 speed owners have done to "modernize" your clutch feel?
I do not know the specifics of what clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, etc are install currently, but my middle aged left leg is getting quite a bit more workout than I'd prefer!
Hydraulic conversion maybe?
Thank you in advance!!
I've had my car (1971 Cutlass convertible, 350/4 speed) for a little over a month now, Loving her! Except:
The clutch pedal feel is really, REALLY stiff, which gets pretty fatiguing in traffic.
So, I am wondering what, if anything, other 4 speed owners have done to "modernize" your clutch feel?
I do not know the specifics of what clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, etc are install currently, but my middle aged left leg is getting quite a bit more workout than I'd prefer!
Hydraulic conversion maybe?
Thank you in advance!!
#2
Keep me in the loop as I am hoping to assemble my 350 4 speed combo without a Hulk left leg scenario:-)
My assumption to start with would be to disassemble and check the bushing above your clutch pedal, then rebuild and verify each part of the Z bar/ball stud arrangement as friction/wear on each of these could be a factor..... These are external so easiest to work on first before surgery:-)
What I have researched says use a Diapgram clutch like Hays street stop or Centerforce and you should be fine. (Learning here not an expert)
Ryan
My assumption to start with would be to disassemble and check the bushing above your clutch pedal, then rebuild and verify each part of the Z bar/ball stud arrangement as friction/wear on each of these could be a factor..... These are external so easiest to work on first before surgery:-)
What I have researched says use a Diapgram clutch like Hays street stop or Centerforce and you should be fine. (Learning here not an expert)
Ryan
#4
If you looking for the squishy marshmellow clutch the new cars have, sorry, it ain't happening with the old style setups. I've been told you can change to a hydraulic setup and it helps.
There is no clutch return spring, there is a spring that keeps the fork in contact with linkage rod.
Now if its really stiff and seems to be loosing adjustment then the pressure plate has issues.
There is no clutch return spring, there is a spring that keeps the fork in contact with linkage rod.
Now if its really stiff and seems to be loosing adjustment then the pressure plate has issues.
#6
The clutch itself can be made to various spring pressures. I recall buying a stiffer one for my built 330 way back in the day. I was willing to live with more pedal force.
As for the external spring on the linkage, it should be almost negligible- it anchors to the fork LH end and then to the starter at least on the cars I have done. So, its purpose it to help bring back to at-rest position everything from the fork up to the pedal.
As for the external spring on the linkage, it should be almost negligible- it anchors to the fork LH end and then to the starter at least on the cars I have done. So, its purpose it to help bring back to at-rest position everything from the fork up to the pedal.
#7
If you looking for the squishy marshmellow clutch the new cars have, sorry, it ain't happening with the old style setups. I've been told you can change to a hydraulic setup and it helps.
There is no clutch return spring, there is a spring that keeps the fork in contact with linkage rod.
Now if its really stiff and seems to be loosing adjustment then the pressure plate has issues.
There is no clutch return spring, there is a spring that keeps the fork in contact with linkage rod.
Now if its really stiff and seems to be loosing adjustment then the pressure plate has issues.
![Big Grin](https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
#8
What clutch is in the car? I've had VERY stiff aftermarket clutches. Now I only use Centerforce.
FYI, a stiff clutch will eventually lead to breakage of the clutch pedal. The arm that pushes on the clutch rod is only attached to the pedal arm with two spotwelds. Eventually, the heavy force of the clutch causes a fatigue crack and the arm will separate from the pedal. Do NOT ask my how I know this!![EEK!](https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
If you keep the heavy clutch, have the arm fully welded to the pedal.
FYI, a stiff clutch will eventually lead to breakage of the clutch pedal. The arm that pushes on the clutch rod is only attached to the pedal arm with two spotwelds. Eventually, the heavy force of the clutch causes a fatigue crack and the arm will separate from the pedal. Do NOT ask my how I know this!
![EEK!](https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums/images/smilies/eek.gif)
If you keep the heavy clutch, have the arm fully welded to the pedal.
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