66 Torondao EV conversion
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Olds Omega
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From: Mautern, Austria
66 Torondao EV conversion
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I think there is going to be money to be made in converting cars to electric. I see conversion shops popping up around the country. They will be just like hot rod shops except they will do electric conversions. Like it or not it is coming. Hell, they have converted Project X to electric which I personally think is sad.
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I actually like everything about the car (wheels, stance, color, front air splitter) except I think the rear spoiler is a little too tall. Half of the height shown and the car would be perfect. Too bad it is just a rendering and it does not actually exist. Maybe someone should build a real one.
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The image looks computer-generated. This line from the text seems to confirm that:
"3D artist". That's code for photoshop driver.
The offset of the wheels also confirms that the car isn't real.
In the hands of a 3D artist that goes by the name of Abimelec Design, this Toronado looks like it's ready for SEMA.
The offset of the wheels also confirms that the car isn't real.
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Olds Omega
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This whole EV thing is way out of proportion .
Before we start pushing electric cars out on the road , we really need to think about beefing up the power grid .
In most places it's barely adequate , in some it's inadequate . ( think Texas )
Without vast improvements in generating and transmission capacity , how is it going to handle charging millions of electric cars ?
The enviormental idea of electric vehicles is a noble one . Less carbon emissions per vehicle .
But if the electricity is produced by coal , oil , or natural gas , there is no benefit .
Plus the heat generated by the transmission lines means some of the power generated by coal , oil , or natural gas is totally wasted as heat . ( think global warming )
Before we start pushing electric cars out on the road , we really need to think about beefing up the power grid .
In most places it's barely adequate , in some it's inadequate . ( think Texas )
Without vast improvements in generating and transmission capacity , how is it going to handle charging millions of electric cars ?
The enviormental idea of electric vehicles is a noble one . Less carbon emissions per vehicle .
But if the electricity is produced by coal , oil , or natural gas , there is no benefit .
Plus the heat generated by the transmission lines means some of the power generated by coal , oil , or natural gas is totally wasted as heat . ( think global warming )
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Fun to see an Olds EV conversion. You couldn't tell from the pictures if the driveline was in the engine bay or the trunk. Would love to see more detail on the conversion work.
I was just talking with my electrical contractor Norwegian cousin about their EV's and their grid. About 70% of the new cars they sell are EV's. The government is upgrading their grid, but right now EV cars are causing a strain on local power lines. The first 1 or 2 EV's on a street isn't that big a deal, but when everybody gets home at the same time and plugs in their cars for tomorrow's commute, it creates a demand problem. Norway as a country is rich from oil revenues so they have the $ to commit to EV's as a nation. Plus it's physically small relative to the US, so the use/recharge problem is different. As an aside he said there are already junkyards filled with used up Teslas. Anyway it's potentially instructive for us to see what effects come (good & bad) from a large % of on-the-road vehicles being EVs.
I wonder how this will work in the US with less political commitment? At least here in CA, PG&E, our electricity provider is a private company reeling from the costs of fire damage awards against them and a big campaign to reduce fire danger from here. I think they were in bankruptcy just 2 years ago. If I had to guess, they'll put in some kind of demand surcharge, plus a charge for high amperage line installation which will change the running costs of EV's here.
With EV's I believe a much larger % of the energy goes to the wheels, whereas in internal combustion engines (now referred to as "ICE" in some circles) lose more energy to heat, pumping losses & drivetrain losses. The downside to EV's, at least here, is that the electricity has to come from somewhere and last I checked, we still burn coal and have nuclear energy providing a goodly chunk of our power. So yeah, your tailpipe is cleaner, but you're not doing the earth much of a favor, you're really moving the problem to power generation. Plus the batteries are heavy, so they eat tires and apparently the batteries are pretty toxic. Not that conventional cars aren't, but it's not clear to me EV's are cleaner throughout the Buy-Use-Recycle process.
My 2 bits.
Cheers
cf
I was just talking with my electrical contractor Norwegian cousin about their EV's and their grid. About 70% of the new cars they sell are EV's. The government is upgrading their grid, but right now EV cars are causing a strain on local power lines. The first 1 or 2 EV's on a street isn't that big a deal, but when everybody gets home at the same time and plugs in their cars for tomorrow's commute, it creates a demand problem. Norway as a country is rich from oil revenues so they have the $ to commit to EV's as a nation. Plus it's physically small relative to the US, so the use/recharge problem is different. As an aside he said there are already junkyards filled with used up Teslas. Anyway it's potentially instructive for us to see what effects come (good & bad) from a large % of on-the-road vehicles being EVs.
I wonder how this will work in the US with less political commitment? At least here in CA, PG&E, our electricity provider is a private company reeling from the costs of fire damage awards against them and a big campaign to reduce fire danger from here. I think they were in bankruptcy just 2 years ago. If I had to guess, they'll put in some kind of demand surcharge, plus a charge for high amperage line installation which will change the running costs of EV's here.
With EV's I believe a much larger % of the energy goes to the wheels, whereas in internal combustion engines (now referred to as "ICE" in some circles) lose more energy to heat, pumping losses & drivetrain losses. The downside to EV's, at least here, is that the electricity has to come from somewhere and last I checked, we still burn coal and have nuclear energy providing a goodly chunk of our power. So yeah, your tailpipe is cleaner, but you're not doing the earth much of a favor, you're really moving the problem to power generation. Plus the batteries are heavy, so they eat tires and apparently the batteries are pretty toxic. Not that conventional cars aren't, but it's not clear to me EV's are cleaner throughout the Buy-Use-Recycle process.
My 2 bits.
Cheers
cf
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