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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 03:52 PM
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Stock Rear Springs?

Okay folks, I finished my front end rebuild and the ride height stayed the same, which is good. But I think I'm over the 70's jacked-up look and would like to get the rear end back down to stock height. I found my old thread about the rear springs and looked up these Moog 5399 springs that are in there now and the installed height is supposed to be 9 inches. But I just went out and measured (with the shocks still bolted up) and got 11.5 inches including the rubber isolator. No wonder it's riding so high! I want to get back to the before picture. What do you guys think? The Moog 5379 (8.5 inches) or the 5409 (7.5 inches)?









Old Jun 19, 2019 | 03:55 PM
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Oh! But here's the thing; that before picture had the worn out springs with the helper shocks (coil overs?). When I removed the rear shocks, the bumper just about hit the ground. So I don't actually know what a stock height would look like. But I really like the look of the before pic.
Old Jun 19, 2019 | 03:55 PM
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Nm my last statement edited out about the old springs as we posted the same time.
Old Jun 19, 2019 | 04:22 PM
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Here's some spring data that I have from an online MOOG catalog:

Spring #... Installed Height.... Load (lbs)...Spring Rate (Lbs/in.)...Free Height... Application
5379 ...............9 .......................698 ...................121 ........................14.77 ........Town sedan except F-85 and Holiday sedan except Cutlass Supreme
5409 ..............7.5 .....................847 ...................140 ........................13.44 .........All 442
5401...............7.5......................727... ................128.........................13.15. ..........2 Door coupe & convertible

I like the 5409 for the lower stance and higher spring rate for better handling.

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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 04:29 PM
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The stock height is recorded in the CSM.
Old Jun 19, 2019 | 04:42 PM
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Thanks for mentioning that. I found the CSM page online a while back and have posted in in various threads, so here it is again.




My car has 5536 up front and PST "442" springs in back that I think are close to the Moog 5409. I measured the ride height a while back and got the following. I don't have factory size tires, though, they are 245-60-15s all around:
Front = 8 1/2"
Rear = 9 3/8"

https://classicoldsmobile.com/forums...-height-73619/

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Old Jun 19, 2019 | 04:59 PM
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Thanks fellas, I appreciate it. I think I should unhook the shocks and measure again. Doesn't make sense but just to be sure. And I guess I'm looking for experience with certain springs, such as Kenneth posted. I don't trust published values anymore. Ken, do you have any side shots of your car handy? And are you using the thick rubber isolators?
Old Jun 19, 2019 | 05:10 PM
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This is with the old 14x7 wheels and 245-60-14 tires:







This is with the new 15x7 wheels and 245-60-15 tires:


Old Jun 19, 2019 | 08:20 PM
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Thanks dude. That looks about right. What are PST springs?
You car looks immaculate!
Old Jun 19, 2019 | 11:06 PM
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What are PST springs?
Performance Suspension Technology

https://p-s-t.com/
Old Jun 20, 2019 | 08:02 AM
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Whoa, pricey.
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