Help please with brackets and pullys
June 23rd, 2015, 07:27 AM
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Help please with brackets and pullys
Hello to all. I have a problem and desperately need help. I have a 72 olds cutlass with a 350. Pulled the engine and transmission out for complete overhaul. While engine was at machine shop a tree fell in my barn and crushed it. Because of this my meticulous origination of brackets pullys bolts and spacers have been lost. I need to know how the brackets go, what bolts I need to buy. It's a 72, without a/c. Please help I am so lost and frustrated!
June 23rd, 2015, 08:44 AM
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If you give me your direct email I will email you a few pictures and if I find it diagrams from manuals to help you.
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June 23rd, 2015, 08:53 AM
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Briansteinke@outlook.com. I really do appreciate any help I can get. After all the money spent on this thing from all the engine part from mondello. To finally be ready to get the engine back in and can't find any bolts or spaces due to the tree. Just really frustrated, going at this whole project by myself.
June 23rd, 2015, 12:10 PM
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If you give me your direct email I will email you a few pictures and if I find it diagrams from manuals to help you.
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Larry
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June 24th, 2015, 03:45 PM
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Think I figured out part of my problem. But how to fix it?
Thank you so much for the diagrams. They clarified that my p/s pump and brackets are not the same. So I started googling p/s pumps and brackets for different years. Found a pump and brackets off of a 76 olds 350 that looked exactly the same. But the car is 72, so is the engine (numbers matched). So I have some random bolts and some home maid spacers, 3 of them. But nothing seems to be working. I will post pictures tomorrow of what I've got. Any suggestions.
June 24th, 2015, 04:02 PM
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The '76 P/S pump brackets should be the same as the '72.
The two spacers have to be the correct thicknesses - I created a thread listing their dimensions, which you should be able to find by searching.
- Eric
The two spacers have to be the correct thicknesses - I created a thread listing their dimensions, which you should be able to find by searching.
- Eric
June 24th, 2015, 04:15 PM
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Spacer sizes are specified, with the caveat that "small" and "large" refer to the OD, not the length...
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to facilitate future finding of the image the word bracket is added with 2 of each letter
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to facilitate future finding of the image the word bracket is added with 2 of each letter
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June 26th, 2015, 06:12 AM
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Pics of brackets
Posting pics is not working. But I have a 2 piece bracket not 3. There is only one hole in the part that bolts to the side of the block. All the diagrams show 2 holes and it is bolted to the other brackets. Mine is not bolted, it is part of the bracket
June 26th, 2015, 09:52 AM
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That would be something other than a stock 1972 setup then
either beat your photo posting issue into submission or purchase a known correct setup complete I guess. I saw several at the swap meet. I know where I have one handy. complete pump with pulley or as little as you need to buy.
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either beat your photo posting issue into submission or purchase a known correct setup complete I guess. I saw several at the swap meet. I know where I have one handy. complete pump with pulley or as little as you need to buy.
517..449.oh 432
text after work for fastest action.
June 26th, 2015, 03:17 PM
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Looks stock to me
except for the slotted lower motor mount area hole. The 398669 brace to the xst manifold bolt is missing.
Using the above diagram and appropriate spacers, it should go right in place. Watch that thick 3/8 washer spacer on the pump to front bracket. It's the same as an intake washer.
except for the slotted lower motor mount area hole. The 398669 brace to the xst manifold bolt is missing.
Using the above diagram and appropriate spacers, it should go right in place. Watch that thick 3/8 washer spacer on the pump to front bracket. It's the same as an intake washer.
June 27th, 2015, 09:14 AM
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If it is stock for 72 then why is the diagram completely different. And why are my spacers not the same size as the diagram? They all show a 3 piece bracket. Mine is 2. Not trying to say your wrong just want to make this work.
June 27th, 2015, 10:28 AM
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I agree that these look like stock brackets, though it's hard to see 100% because of the shadows, and I'm not sure what you mean by saying that they don't look like the brackets in the diagrams - they look like them to me.
Maybe you need to take them off of the pump, so that you can compare them each separately.
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Maybe you need to take them off of the pump, so that you can compare them each separately.
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June 27th, 2015, 10:59 AM
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if your spacers do not match the sizes I measured and posted above then you need to fix that. without the proper spacers you have no chance for success. You can make 'em or buy 'em, but you cannot just make do with "some" spacers.
Your '669 BRACE to the exhaust manifold is missing so you have two of the three illustrated. That you "can" do without but why not just get one and install it?
Again, at the swap meet, I saw several complete setups, and I know where one is on one of my parts cars, so they are available complete. Have you perused epay at all? Often for a reasonable cost the entire pump/ bracket assembly is available.
[pic removed 7/7/15 due to errors]
Your '669 BRACE to the exhaust manifold is missing so you have two of the three illustrated. That you "can" do without but why not just get one and install it?
Again, at the swap meet, I saw several complete setups, and I know where one is on one of my parts cars, so they are available complete. Have you perused epay at all? Often for a reasonable cost the entire pump/ bracket assembly is available.
[pic removed 7/7/15 due to errors]
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June 27th, 2015, 11:08 AM
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July 9th, 2015, 09:58 AM
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If you consider ALL the fasteners, there is a LOT to know about PS pump mounting.
Have most if not all of it rounded up now.
Usually I just supply the two spacers and maybe the one boltstud.
Have most if not all of it rounded up now.
Usually I just supply the two spacers and maybe the one boltstud.
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