Trying to get this 350 dialed in
Trying to get this 350 dialed in
I could use some help getting this engine dialed in. Here is some background.
350 w/ seal-pro flat tops .030 over. Engine was squared, balanced and deck honed before assembly. #6 heads with a competition valve job. C/R right at 10:1. Comp XE268H cam advanced 4 deg. 3:42 Gears/350 turbo with 1800-2000 stall. The engine only has about 300 miles.
Idle is 750 rpm w 8-9 in Hg
Initial timing is 18 deg
Total mechanical + initial 40 deg all in about 3k. and no pinging. (This does not seem right to me and has me questioning the accuracy of my timing light.). If I hook up the vacuum advance the timing seems to go off the charts but still no pinging??????
Pulled all the plugs yesterday and they were all very white making me suspect it is lean.
Car pulls pretty strong to about 3k and falls flat on it face. It just seems to run out of breath. No stumble miss or backfire.
The carb and intake were on the engine before the rebuild and I suspect that the intake in particular may be part of the problem. EDlebrock ST2P intake with a Edlebrock performer 1406 Carb. I will do some carb tuning tomorrow. Not sure what jets are in it now.
Any thoughts?
350 w/ seal-pro flat tops .030 over. Engine was squared, balanced and deck honed before assembly. #6 heads with a competition valve job. C/R right at 10:1. Comp XE268H cam advanced 4 deg. 3:42 Gears/350 turbo with 1800-2000 stall. The engine only has about 300 miles.
Idle is 750 rpm w 8-9 in Hg
Initial timing is 18 deg
Total mechanical + initial 40 deg all in about 3k. and no pinging. (This does not seem right to me and has me questioning the accuracy of my timing light.). If I hook up the vacuum advance the timing seems to go off the charts but still no pinging??????
Pulled all the plugs yesterday and they were all very white making me suspect it is lean.
Car pulls pretty strong to about 3k and falls flat on it face. It just seems to run out of breath. No stumble miss or backfire.
The carb and intake were on the engine before the rebuild and I suspect that the intake in particular may be part of the problem. EDlebrock ST2P intake with a Edlebrock performer 1406 Carb. I will do some carb tuning tomorrow. Not sure what jets are in it now.
Any thoughts?
Deck honed? Not sure what that means.
Do your basic tuning. Then throw the 1406 in the trash and buy a 750 of some sort. Did they actually degree the cam or just arbitrarily advance it? Check it then retard the cam back the 4 degrees it was advanced, you don't need that with such a small cam and 10:1.
Next double check tdc on your balancer to verify your timing. Too much up top can make it nose over as well, without hearing any pinging.
Do your basic tuning. Then throw the 1406 in the trash and buy a 750 of some sort. Did they actually degree the cam or just arbitrarily advance it? Check it then retard the cam back the 4 degrees it was advanced, you don't need that with such a small cam and 10:1.
Next double check tdc on your balancer to verify your timing. Too much up top can make it nose over as well, without hearing any pinging.
Last edited by cutlassefi; May 30, 2014 at 06:03 PM.
A large part if it is the SP2P. They were built for mileage and nothing more. Falling flat at 3000-3500 is their trade mark. I'm curious where you took your vac reading to only have 7-8" of vacuum. If that is a true straight manifold reading that should have one heck of a choppy idle.
Deck honed? Not sure what that means.
Do your basic tuning. Then throw the 1406 in the trash and buy a 750 of some sort. Did they actually degree the cam or just arbitrarily advance it? Check it then retard the cam back the 4 degrees it was advanced, you don't need that with such a small cam and 10:1.
Next double check tdc on your balancer to verify your timing. Too much up top can make it nose over as well, without hearing any pinging.
Do your basic tuning. Then throw the 1406 in the trash and buy a 750 of some sort. Did they actually degree the cam or just arbitrarily advance it? Check it then retard the cam back the 4 degrees it was advanced, you don't need that with such a small cam and 10:1.
Next double check tdc on your balancer to verify your timing. Too much up top can make it nose over as well, without hearing any pinging.
. I used a SA Gear timing set with 4 deg key way machined in. I have verified balancer to be 0 @ TDC. I agree, the carb and intake are wrong. I respect what you are saying but hate the thought of pulling the front of the motor. How big a difference do you think the 4 deg adv. cam timing is making?
A large part if it is the SP2P. They were built for mileage and nothing more. Falling flat at 3000-3500 is their trade mark. I'm curious where you took your vac reading to only have 7-8" of vacuum. If that is a true straight manifold reading that should have one heck of a choppy idle.
Honed with deck plate is what I meant to say.
. I used a SA Gear timing set with 4 deg key way machined in. I have verified balancer to be 0 @ TDC. I agree, the carb and intake are wrong. I respect what you are saying but hate the thought of pulling the front of the motor. How big a difference do you think the 4 deg adv. cam timing is making?
. I used a SA Gear timing set with 4 deg key way machined in. I have verified balancer to be 0 @ TDC. I agree, the carb and intake are wrong. I respect what you are saying but hate the thought of pulling the front of the motor. How big a difference do you think the 4 deg adv. cam timing is making?I totally disagree with Smitty on the intake, sorry. A regular Performer on a small block like yours is a total waste of time and money. The RPM will work well with your compression and cam.
Last edited by cutlassefi; May 31, 2014 at 06:28 AM.
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