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Old December 17th, 2021 | 03:18 PM
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I have a 64 Cutlass with the Olds 403 small block and a Muncie 4spd in it. What headers can I run in this car? Will small block headers for a 68-72 work? Thank you.
Old December 21st, 2021 | 03:13 AM
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Thornton has shorty style, out of stock right now. I'd call about your application first.

https://www.thorntonmusclecars.com/p...***-350-engine
Old December 21st, 2021 | 06:53 AM
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If you want real headers for performance (as opposed to shorty headers for appearance), ARH is the best bet. There's a reason why they cost so much more. The frame on the 64-67 cars is slightly narrower in the engine bay. Headers for these cars were common years ago, but today the manufacturers really only support the 68-up cars. Every header manufacturer routes tubes differently, and one vendor's 68-77 headers may fit an early car better than another's. Unfortunately there's no good way to know.
Old December 21st, 2021 | 10:55 AM
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Holy smokes Joe, 1500 US for the headers.
Old December 21st, 2021 | 11:48 AM
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Joe would extrude honing the exhaust manifolds gain any HP?
Old December 21st, 2021 | 01:06 PM
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Joe would extrude honing the exhaust manifolds gain any HP?
If you start with W/Z manifolds, yes. The W/Z castings have individual runners. Unfortunately they won't work on the OP's 403, and despite what vendors may say, the aftermarket SBO manifolds are NOT W/Z type. They do not have the individual runners.
Old December 21st, 2021 | 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
If you want real headers for performance (as opposed to shorty headers for appearance), ARH is the best bet. There's a reason why they cost so much more. The frame on the 64-67 cars is slightly narrower in the engine bay. Headers for these cars were common years ago, but today the manufacturers really only support the 68-up cars. Every header manufacturer routes tubes differently, and one vendor's 68-77 headers may fit an early car better than another's. Unfortunately there's no good way to know.
Its a good thing the OP car is not a "supreme". It will not fit
Old December 21st, 2021 | 03:45 PM
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Its a good thing the OP car is not a "supreme". It will not fit
The really ludicrous part of that is that Summit has a footnote on they G-body trans crossmembers that they will not fit Supremes!
Talk about common sense being uncommon.
Old December 22nd, 2021 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by joe_padavano
If you want real headers for performance (as opposed to shorty headers for appearance), ARH is the best bet. There's a reason why they cost so much more. The frame on the 64-67 cars is slightly narrower in the engine bay. Headers for these cars were common years ago, but today the manufacturers really only support the 68-up cars. Every header manufacturer routes tubes differently, and one vendor's 68-77 headers may fit an early car better than another's. Unfortunately there's no good way to know.
How are these headers for ground clearance? Overall fussiness/maintenance?
Old December 22nd, 2021 | 11:55 AM
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How are these headers for ground clearance? Overall fussiness/maintenance?
Pretty much the same as for any headers. Yes, they will hang lower than manifolds. Yes, eventually the gaskets will leak and require replacement. Yes, you will probably have to move the combo valve.
Old December 22nd, 2021 | 02:43 PM
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Thanks!
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