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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:00 PM
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Question Any point in priming?

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So the engine re-install looks like it might actually happen tomorrow. But I'll have all the accessories to get back on and the dual exhaust to install so is there any point in priming tomorrow before I put the engine in? Would it make the second priming (before first start) shorter and easier?
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:07 PM
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Yes and yes. Make sure you have oil pressure gauge hooked up or the block fitting plugged off. Makes for one heck if an overhead mess otherwise.
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:28 PM
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Block fitting? Oh, do you mean where I have the oil sending unit screwed in? Oil won't splash out of the Distributor hole will it?

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Old Jun 6, 2014 | 05:36 PM
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No, there is no pressure in that area.
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 06:09 PM
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Thanks Randy
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 06:59 PM
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You should be able to see the oil squirting out onto the distributor gear though if you look down into there
Old Jun 6, 2014 | 08:54 PM
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I would prime it on the stand with the valve covers off. Insure that all your rockers are flowing oil prior to installing. It will take a few minutes with a drill, but I hate the surprise of no oil flow after I went through all the trouble of the install. Only to have to pull it out again.
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 02:14 AM
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X2^^
Much easier if you find you have an oiling fault before installing the engine.


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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 05:01 AM
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Originally Posted by oldcutlass
I would prime it on the stand with the valve covers off. Insure that all your rockers are flowing oil prior to installing. It will take a few minutes with a drill, but I hate the surprise of no oil flow after I went through all the trouble of the install. Only to have to pull it out again.
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X2^^
Much easier if you find you have an oiling fault before installing the engine.


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Understood. Let's just hope that's not the case. I read it's helpful to fill the oil filter before installing. Good idea?
Trying to get an early start. Supposed to rain this afternoon. I'll let you all know how it went (if it did) this evening in my "Pulling the motor" thread.
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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 05:23 AM
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If you prime the system you will fill the filter anyway.
The Buick/Oldsmobile 215 in its Rover V8 guise couldn't be primed because of the oil pump drive being geared rather than shaft driven. It was recommended that the oil pump should be packed with petroleum jelly to ensure minimal lag before oil got pushed round the engine. In that particular case it was a good idea to fill the oil filter before installing.
It's also a good idea to fill oil filters before instillation when doing an oil & filter change. Make sure the oil going in is kept clean!.


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Old Jun 7, 2014 | 05:25 AM
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Remember to run the drill motor backwards or counter clockwise. Otherwise you might really be upset when no oil at all moves.
Old Jun 7, 2014 | 11:13 AM
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Engine is well primed, in it's nest, and we're trying to get it lined up as best we can. will update later.
BTW, tomorrow is Maggie's (my daughter's) birthday so she'll need a lot of kudos when we're done
Old Jun 12, 2014 | 11:13 PM
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I didn't prime mine. I was lazy
Old Jun 12, 2014 | 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by VinMichael
I didn't prime mine. I was lazy

How long did it take for oil pressure to build up?.


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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:03 AM
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Originally Posted by rustyroger
How long did it take for oil pressure to build up?.


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not long at all. the engine wasn't firing due to it not getting fuel. I cranked the engine until the battery got weak (which didn't take long to happen) maybe 30 seconds of cranking. At that time I pulled the valve covers, and the rockers already had oil on them.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 12:09 AM
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Taking the plugs out will also help you spin the engine for a bit longer if priming isn't an option.


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Old Jun 13, 2014 | 06:36 PM
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The engine actually primed in under a minute. I hadn't hot tanked the block so there must have been oil in the passages still.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 07:28 PM
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Mac was there oil coming from the pushrods ? I took me atleast 10 minutes with an air drill to do my last engine.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah Copper, all the pushrods. Filled the rockers and over the side of the block. Glad I taped rags on the side.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 08:21 PM
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Maybe I didn't use a heavy enough oil? 10w30 with a bottle of break-in fluid.
Old Jun 13, 2014 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Macadoo
Maybe I didn't use a heavy enough oil? 10w30 with a bottle of break-in fluid.

You want oil getting round your engine ASAP, 10w30 should be fine for an engine built to modern tolerances,


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Old Jun 14, 2014 | 03:20 AM
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I used 15w40 with a zddp additive. The oil psi went up fast but it took a while to get oil from the pushrods. I found it odd too. But never had issues with oil psi. The previous 2 engines I built it was fast like withing 3 minutes I had oil coming out the pushrods.
Old Jun 14, 2014 | 06:21 AM
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Maybe I should clarify; I got oil out the first pushrod in under a minute. Might have been 2-1/2 before it came out of all of them. I used Lucas zddp I think. I thought it odd but the directions were to fill with oil to normal capacity and add the entire bottle on top of it.
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